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622 with sony 4:3 ratio not working well

I just upgraded my dish to dish HD. My TV is a Sony tube, KV-32HS510 (4:3 aspect ratio). HD content seems to show properly with the expected black bars top and bottom. Non-HD content from the 622 to the TV shows black bars all the way around the image, with the image appearing to be in a 4:3 ratio, just shrunken. I have changed all the settings on the 622 to no avail. The star button changes the image, including horizontal filling of the screen, but in no way will the image fill the screen vertically. The Sony doesn't have many settings for the picture, only one for "enhanced 16:9".
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SR Sullivan:

I have have the same problem, with the same TV, here's another solution:

for SD programing, I use the S-video output on the 622 to the TV, and for Hi-def, I use the hmdi->dvi.

This way I don't have to mess with changing the settings all the time, I simply press the input select button until it changes from the DVI input to the S-Video input.
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kstile
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This is a symptom of a BUG (ok, perhaps a lack of feature) in the 622 (and all Dish HD receivers.) What they *don't* do is what is called Native Passthrough. If they did that, they would send the signal to the TV that is coming from Dish: a 480i signal for SD and a 1080i (or 720p) signal for HD content. This has been a promised feature upgrade for months from Dish, and if/when it comes, it should solve this problem. Instead, as you noticed, you have to tell the receiver what resolution to output (for HDMI and component - your HD outputs).

My solution is exactly the same as Cokeswigga's. I have the Sony KV36XBR (4:3 tube) Use both the S-Video and HDMI (or component) output to my TV and switch the TV's inputs. It's a pain, but mitigated by my Harmony 720 remote - I have a button called "Watch TV" which switches to Video 3 (S-Video) and a button called "Watch HD" which switches to Video 7 (HDMI->DVI).

In the short term, be careful about switching the resolution to 480p just to fill the screen with SD content - it makes your HD content 480p also and even on a 32" TV you'll definitely see the difference. An HDTV with an SD (even 480p) signal is a terrible, sad, sight :-).

Keep your eyes on this forum for talk about Native Passthrough It may be more months coming, but, maybe, someday, it will...
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DannyR
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Native passthrough alone won't solve the problem, because not every TV supports 720p for instance (mine doesn't).

What I proposed a long time ago is a simple control to replace the current one... simply have a setting for each of the four major resolutions and map it to a prefered output you desire.

For instance with my TV, I'd select te following.

1080i -> 1080i
720p -> 1080i
480p -> 480p
480i -> 480p

Seems like such a simple fix I'm suprised they haven't implemented it by now. I could code this myself easily enough.
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MikeD-C05
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I think that if the sd was upconverted to 480p it would look much better than upconverted to either 720p or 1080i. Then your tv could do the upconverting much better than the 622. My Toshiba hdtv does a better job on all upconverting but the true hd picture looks better with the 622. THe above solution would work well for the best of both.
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srsullivan said:
I just upgraded my dish to dish HD. My TV is a Sony tube, KV-32HS510 (4:3 aspect ratio). HD content seems to show properly with the expected black bars top and bottom. Non-HD content from the 622 to the TV shows black bars all the way around the image, with the image appearing to be in a 4:3 ratio, just shrunken. I have changed all the settings on the 622 to no avail. The star button changes the image, including horizontal filling of the screen, but in no way will the image fill the screen vertically. The Sony doesn't have many settings for the picture, only one for "enhanced 16:9".
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Before I got my XBR970 16x9 34" HDTV, I had the SONY 32" 4:3 HDTV (for only a few days actually), for the same reason. Black bars on top and bottom for all HD, and way too much lost screen real-estate for SD.

The solutions in other posts work, but it sure is frustrating. My solution was to return the TV, and get what was then the just released XBR970; what I suspect will be the last 34" CRT that SONY makes. :(
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Auto Racing 2026

New thread or keep this one?

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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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At least for a couple more years
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...
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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
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Jimbo
Jimbo
cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
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Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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meStevo said:
Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
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