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Allin4greeN
Allin4greeN
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA Smart Antenna & 622 ATSC/8VSB

I'm thinking about upgrading my indoor antenna, a little RS 15-1870, to a relatively unobtrusive outdoor model, and I'm looking at this Sylvania DT-5000 at Sam's Club to possibly do the job. I live in an apartment complex so, I need something that is not going to ruffle the complex management feathers and this seems to fit the bill...

After some research, however, I came up with this link which has the following disclaimer- PLEASE NOTE: This antenna can only be used with an ATSC Receiver that has a smart antenna feature (that conforms to the EIA/CEA-909 standard) or a television with a built-in ATSC Receiver.

Does anyone know if the 622's ATSC tuner conforms to this EIA/CEDA-909 standard and/or if I can use this antenna in my set-up. My Vizio P50HDTV10A has a built in ATSC tuner also but, I can't find any reference to the Smart Antenna feature in my documentation :confused:

Sylvania DT-5000 at Sam's Club http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?catg=535&item=170730&prDeTab=2#A
Sylvania DT-5000 at SummitSource.com http://www.summitsource.com/dx-ante...l-green-zone-instock-part-dta5000-p-6320.html
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navychop
navychop
Doesn't look like a positive posting to me. Good luck.
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Allin4greeN
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navychop said:
Doesn't look like a positive posting to me. Good luck.
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I know the general disposition of the poster was not overwhelmingly positive but, I delved a little deeper into his reviews (links within the the thread I posted) and was intrigued by this...

"THE GOOD NEWS:
For the past two weeks, I compared the On-Air DTV performance of the DTA-5000 Smart Antenna
to a 4-Bay Vertical Zig-Zag for two indoor and two outdoor locations chosen primarily for WAF.
The Smart Antenna consistently brought in the more difficult channels when the 4-Bay
required hunting around for the best location and still suffered varying degrees of signal dropout.
I was impressed the presumably low-gain, compact DTA-5000 outperformed a medium gain 4-Bay.

The DTA-5000 is probably best suited for short to medium ranges (under 30 miles),
and especially with difficult multipath conditions, such as indoors and perhaps in
urban concrete canyons (did not test)."

The last paragraph pretty much describes my needs to a "T". I might even try this thing indoors first and position it out of sight somewhere.

AVS Thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5979741&highlight=dta5000#post5979741
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Jim5506
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There are boo-koos of small outdoor antennas that can be used indoors that are 1/2 to 1/4 the price and will probably perform better.
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Allin4greeN
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Well, I got the "not-so-smart antenna" tonight and spent a couple of hours playing around with different locations and positions. Indoors, outdoors, up-side-down... As navychop and Jim5506 anticipated, this thing is pretty much useless in my set-up. It's reception was worse than my little indoor model, so back to Sam's it goes.

I should've taken your original advice and tried the CM3010, navychop :o Lesson learned, I'll be looking to pick one of these up. On a more positive note, at least now I have an additional RG6 run to the outside of my apartment :)

Many thanks for your valiant attempts to talk sense into me!
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Allin4greeN said:
Well, I got the "not-so-smart antenna" tonight and spent a couple of hours playing around with different locations and positions. Indoors, outdoors, up-side-down... As navychop and Jim5506 anticipated, this thing is pretty much useless in my set-up. It's reception was worse than my little indoor model, so back to Sam's it goes.

I should've taken your original advice and tried the CM3010, navychop :o Lesson learned, I'll be looking to pick one of these up. On a more positive note, at least now I have an additional RG6 run to the outside of my apartment :)

Many thanks for your valiant attempts to talk sense into me!
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You might also try a Winegard sensar II these have been used in the RV antenna marketplace for at least 20 years.:)
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navychop
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Yes, to less than satisfactory results. I have one. :(
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Domicile: Build a Linux Desktop with HTML, CSS & JavaScript #shorts

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
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TRG
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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TRG said:
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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At least for a couple more years
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FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
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Now live:
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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KyL416 said:
Now live:
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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Ramy
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...
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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20
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cp2k
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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
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cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
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Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
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So you have a MBA?
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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
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I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
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Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
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And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
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Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
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