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Line of Sight Assessment & aiming help

I have moved a dish 500 system with twin LNB from my house to my parents house 3 miles away. The skew, azimuth, and elevation are the same for both locations.

When I set this up a couple of years ago I got it aimed correctly right away. Now I am having problems finding 119. I can get a fair signal on 110, but I can not find 119 at all. I have walked through slowly increaseing elevation and have had great patience in aiming. I can see signal from ony 110 and if I go far enough I can see the bellview.

My biggest question is how to determine if the problem is line of sight. My parents house backs up to hardwoods to the south, but I have a little over 100 foot fromt the dish to the woods. Mounting the dish on the house would raise it up but it would only be about 30 - 35 feet from the woods. I have some more distance in their front yard, but how do i tell how far is far enough?

Thanks for any help!
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As Jim says, if you can see above the trees looking up the LNBF arm, you should be good, but it can be lower than the top of the trees and still be good.

Somewhere there is a web site to figure the distance you need to be from an object to receive the signal, and is location dependent.

Plumb, if your first install had a plumb mast, and the second install had a plumb mast, then the settings would be very close. Of course, even though the Azimuth would be the same, the actual location on the mast would only apply if the mounting of the foot in both locations were the same - which is not likely, so you would have to twist the dish on the mast to correct for relocating it.

I can see signal from ony 110 and if I go far enough I can see the bellview.
You can see the Bellview Bird; hmmmm, it sounds like you are swinging to the east to find the 119 which is westward. I think there are 2 Bellview sats which are at 91 and 83.

Looking from the back of the dish towards the Twin LNBF, you will see the 2 eyes for the 2 LNBF's. The one on your right (westside) is for 110, while the one on your left (eastside) is 119.
NOTE: The 119 Sat is west of the 110 Sat, but the LNBF's are opposite, since the sat signal reflects off the dish and back to the LNBF. The Dish 500 with a Twin LNBF is actually aimed/pointed between the 110 and 119 sats at 114.5 degrees.

I think I would get the 110 sat on the screen.
Then cover up the LNBF for the 110 sat (the holder should be labled), which is on your Right.

If you lose the 110 signal, then you have the right LNBF.
If you do not lose the 110 signal, then you are receiving the 110 signal through the 119 LNBF. In this case swing the dish/LNBF to the west about 9 degrees, which is about 1/16 of an inch on the mast pipe. Work from this point moving it very slightly each time.
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My installer told me it's the top of the dish that really needs to have line of site as the signal comes in on a higher angle and gets reflected to the LBN.
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Thanks to all!!!!!!!!

Thanks to all for your help. Your comments and posts on this board were very helpful in getting this installed!

I moved the dish about 40 feet and found 119 fine.
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Thanks!!!!!

Thanks to all for the tips and advice. Your advice and the post on this board helped me a bunch. I appreciate it.

I relocated the dish about 40 feet back from it's previous location.

Getting 105 on 119 and about 98 on 110.
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Merged duplicate threads... good to hear you got it going.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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At least for a couple more years
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.