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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Splitter vs. 2 indep. cable jacks (622)

In my new home, I had the builder install a central hub box for phone, cable, Ethernet. From this hub, I opted for two cable lines/jacks to where my home entertainment system would be. My thinking at the time, knowing that I was going to purchase 622 and may decide to do the two TV feature (one cable incoming, one outgoing). It turns out I am using both on same TV for now. Anyways, the DISH installer used both lines/jacks from the switch (using two out of four jacks on switch) to go to 622. I assumed he would use one line, and use the included splitter to separate the signal from the single jack to 622. HE SAID HE HAD TO USE BOTH LINES to hook up both receivers on 622, and couldn't use just one line. I don't believe him.

He is wrong isn't he? I would like to connect a currently unconnected jack elsewhere in home to the switch and only use one cable line to the 622 and then split it from the 622 wall jack with the included splitter. Then I would have the extra jack behind the 622 as an outgoing jack, should i want to go to yet another tv. OR I may have to break down and get an OTA antenna since the promise of Cincy HDs went down the crapper, which would use second jack. I should be able to do this, shouldn't I?

Also, is one setup better/more reliable than the other?

BTW, I also made sure to have an Ethernet wall jack behind the 622/home entertainment system. I looks like my hunch is right, assuming that E* follows through on activating Ethernet port on 622.
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Didn't Dish just issue A DPP-33 swich ,which is a 3 orbital location DPP switch which allows for the use of Seperators..


It's probably cheaper to backfeed the TV2 out on one of the lines using a diplexors.

if you are thinking about an antenna, you can also diplex that too with the other sat-line. You might loose a little signal due to the insetion loss.. but you should be ok.
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kaman
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Ok then...I indicated (verbal only) to DISH installer that I intended to use the second cable as output and use 4th port for additional receiver (not owned at the time of install). Should I call DISH and tell them that I needed and requested a DP44 (at least functionality a DP44 gives) at the time of install, and ask for them to switch it out? Will they do it? Is DP44 part of the normal free install if customer has need for it?

Also, I need my DISH realigned anyway...I'm slowly losing some sat 129 channels, even on clear days. I used to not have this issue. I have re-tightened all the connections (except on roof of course), which helped maybe 20%. But install was last May. Is there a statute of limitations for them to fix install issues?

No offense to you DISH "freebie" installers, but I considered going ahead and paying someone else $$ to come out at re-align it and getting better service. I did not like the installer, who didn't even use my PVC pipe/run from attic to basement, like I requested. I put the run in specifically for this purpose and ensured it was easy access. IT WAS NOT EXTRA WORK FOR HIM TO DO SO. Instead he put the cable down the side of my house and drilled through the foundation. He could have easily drilled a hole at the top by the eaves into the attic instead of low, which would have been about three feet from the attic entrance in the garage. And the entrance to the run (top of the pipe) is also about 3 ft from the entrance to attic. So when you enter attic, 3 ft ahead is the run and to your right 3 ft is the hole he could have drilled for the cable. This is all at the tall/open part of the attic, so no squeezing into tight places or fishing cable. The run ends in the basement right at the hub.
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I'll let someone else provide info on what Dish will or will not do, but as "webbydude" said, I kind of doubt that they will give anything extra unless it's needed for the equipment they are furnishing.

I believe there may be two current software versions for the 508; P363 and P364.
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/customerCare/technical/software_versions/index.asp

I'm not sure if the screen would should something different if you had a DPP Twin instead of a DP Twin. Maybe someone else has more knowledge. Otherwise, it sounds like you have a Dish 1000 installed to receive 119, 110 & 129. The Dish 1000 comes with a DPP Twin and a DP Dual. It is possible the DPP Twin was replaced with a DP Twin when the DP34 switch was installed.

To add another receiver, you are going to need another Switch. You can buy a DPP44 for under $200 and use the DP34 for a spare; or you can buy another DP34 for under $70, and connect it to the current DP34 which will allow you to have upto 8 tuners.

As stated before, you can use 2 diplexers to back-feed one of the 2 other rooms using the ViP 622 TV2 Output. However, since you prefer not to get another switch, then maybe you get a splitter, and backfeed the 622 RF Output to both of those rooms. Then you could also, turn on TV1 Output, so that both tuners are being backfeed to those two rooms. Then you could buy another UHF PRO remote for the other room to control TV1 when no one is watching it downstairs. Each room could watch a different program, and if they watch recordings, the 622 could record 2 new shows at the same time.

DPP44 - 4 sats, 4 receivers - upto 8 tuners
DP34 - 3 sats, 4 receivers - upto 4 tuners
DPP33 - 3 sats, 3 receivers - upto 6 tuners (not available yet)

TV/Cable Splitters - splits same RF signal to multiple locations; usually can be reversed to combine separate RF signals.
Diplexers - Will combine and then split, 1 sat signal and 1 RF signal; but not 2 of same.
DP Separator - Separates 2 satellite signals, which are combined by a DishPro Plus LNBF or a DishPro Plus Switch. Will only work on a DishPro Plus Receiver (Dual Tuner).

You now know as much as the rest of us. :)

EDIT: TV/Cable Splitters that work in the higher frequency range will also split a satellite signal; but except for in limited circumstances, it will not work (properly).
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kaman said:
Ok then...I indicated (verbal only) to DISH installer that I intended to use the second cable as output and use 4th port for additional receiver (not owned at the time of install). Should I call DISH and tell them that I needed and requested a DP44 (at least functionality a DP44 gives) at the time of install, and ask for them to switch it out? Will they do it? Is DP44 part of the normal free install if customer has need for it?

Also, I need my DISH realigned anyway...I'm slowly losing some sat 129 channels, even on clear days. I used to not have this issue. I have re-tightened all the connections (except on roof of course), which helped maybe 20%. But install was last May. Is there a statute of limitations for them to fix install issues?

No offense to you DISH "freebie" installers, but I considered going ahead and paying someone else $$ to come out at re-align it and getting better service. I did not like the installer, who didn't even use my PVC pipe/run from attic to basement, like I requested. I put the run in specifically for this purpose and ensured it was easy access. IT WAS NOT EXTRA WORK FOR HIM TO DO SO. Instead he put the cable down the side of my house and drilled through the foundation. He could have easily drilled a hole at the top by the eaves into the attic instead of low, which would have been about three feet from the attic entrance in the garage. And the entrance to the run (top of the pipe) is also about 3 ft from the entrance to attic. So when you enter attic, 3 ft ahead is the run and to your right 3 ft is the hole he could have drilled for the cable. This is all at the tall/open part of the attic, so no squeezing into tight places or fishing cable. The run ends in the basement right at the hub.
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No offense taken :p . Going on a limb here and guessing he didn't take advantage of that existing wiring due to grounding and NEC restrictions. Ya know, stuff that can save your equipment from blowing out due to electrical surge; not to mention save his job and ass.
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Cokeswigga said:
Didn't Dish just issue A DPP-33 swich ,which is a 3 orbital location DPP switch which allows for the use of Seperators..


It's probably cheaper to backfeed the TV2 out on one of the lines using a diplexors.

if you are thinking about an antenna, you can also diplex that too with the other sat-line. You might loose a little signal due to the insetion loss.. but you should be ok.
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Ah yes...the mythical DPP33. If you see one, please tell me. Last I heard, there was one strolling down the street, walking alongside Santa, the Easter bunny, and my winning multi-million dollar lotter ticket :D
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Just to clarify, the whole "run"/pipe thing had no wiring/cabling. It was just an empty conduit (3" PVC pipe) for easy access to run the future cabling from the future dish to the hub (attic to basement). Of course, from the hub to all the jacks in the house had cabling that came with the house, which was used.

Webby, I see you are in Canton, OH. Do you personally know of any RELIABLE installers in the Cincy area who could come and re-align my DISH correctly and thoroughly? Or if you are coming down this way anytime soon, would you be willing to do it for some extra cash? I suppose this goes for anyone out there, not just Webby. What about you TNGTony, are you an installer (u know where I live from another post)?
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Kaman, if I was in the area I would love to do that. But I do have a few questions. How recent was your install? If it's within 90 days and you feel the signal is low and could be better, you are entitled to free service calls during that time. Otherwise, the RSP I'm affiliated with pretty much services the whole state and parts of Indianna and WV. I can give you their number if you feel comfortable with that. Just shoot me a PM.
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Auto Racing 2026

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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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At least for a couple more years
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...
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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
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Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
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