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Mike McGann
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As reported in the NY Times today, although the buzz has been around the industry for a couple weeks:

DirecTV is in the process of finalizing a deal to get exclusive use of the "Extra Innings" out of town package as well as an all-baseball channel set to launch in 2009.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/baseball/index.html

I'm thinking this won't go well. Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Comcast) plans to go after the NFL's limited anti-trust exemption over the Sunday Ticket package, which is only on DirecTV. Imagine what he (and Congress) will do to baseball over this.

I get why D* wants to do this, since user growth is next to nil and they're losing about $300 million a year on Sunday Ticket, this is a way to push subs up and potentially cut the losses on ST, by adding customers. Good luck with that, of course.

I don't get why MLB is going for this, though. With EI currently available through cable and satellite, it has about 750,000 customers. Were it to become available only through DTV, that number would drop by more than two thirds.

The money from D* isn't good enough to cut MLB's exposure and risk loss of the Anti-trust exemption.

I think MLB's owners need drug testing.
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charper1
I am almost sure that there must be some viewer/subscriber number guarantees in place. Wouldn't you think?
B
I am almost sure that there must be some viewer/subscriber number guarantees in place. Wouldn't you think?

Numbers: 7 years $700 million.

Guarantees: The price we pay will go up.
lou_do
Numbers: 7 years $700 million.

Guarantees: The price we pay will go up.

Yep, here we go again. Just like when they monoplized the ST package. The price of that skyrocketed so bad that many people have dropped it. I used to have ST, MLB and CI. Now, I am down to MLB and CI. If there are any outragious price increases in MLB I will be down to CI, only. Hope someone steps in and stops it from happening.
Jimbo
Yep, here we go again. Just like when they monoplized the ST package. The price of that skyrocketed so bad that many people have dropped it. I used to have ST, MLB and CI. Now, I am down to MLB and CI. If there are any outragious price increases in MLB I will be down to CI, only. Hope someone steps in and stops it from happening.

I agree with Shady B, I don't think that the EI package will have the same appeal as the ST does.
I have considered the package , but always decided thatI don'twatch enough baseball any more to justify it, I watch my Tigers and would like to see the Red Sox, but thats about it.

If the price IS $ 150 for me to see the Red Sox I will continue to NOT get the package.

Jimbo
Proc
...I have considered the package , but always decided thatI don'twatch enough baseball any more to justify it, I watch my Tigers and would like to see the Red Sox, but thats about it...
Jimbo

I've had EI for the past 2 years. I've enjoyed it. At first, I thought I wouldn't watch alot of the games, but what I've found out is that I'll tune in based upon a pitching matchup or just because I want to see a particular team or player that night.

With that said...

--The Milwaukee Brewers announcers keep the game light-hearted. It always seems like the Brewer's fans are taking in some type of promotion

--Vin Scully, the "VOICE" of the Dodgers is incredible to listen to. He paints a picture and give backgrounds information so seemlessly. He is a gem not to be missed.

--Rivalries. Its nice to see what your division foes are doing. Being in Detroit, and finally having something to cheer for last year, it was fun to watch White Sox and Twins games to see how the competition was faring.

--The Watch a Few Innings Factor. I find with EI, I'll watch a few innings of several games as opposed to a whole game.

I have the NFL ST, MLB EI and NHL CI. I doubt I'll renew NHL CI next season. I love my Red Wings and to be honest, am to the point, they are all I want to watch. The NFL ST is always welcome in my home. I just wish the cost wouldn't keep spiriling up.
satjay
So...This deal is not set in stone yet
jpn
jpn
So...This deal is not set in stone yet

As it stands today, there is only rumor. However, no cable or satellite service has pricing available for EI 2007.
B
As it stands today, there is only rumor. However, no cable or satellite service has pricing available for EI 2007.

And MLB does not have pricing for the upcoming season of MLB.Tv on their website either. If I remember correcty it was about $89 last season.
lou_do
And MLB does not have pricing for the upcoming season of MLB.Tv on their website either. If I remember correcty it was about $89 last season.

Maybe it will be discontinued if D* get sole rights for IE.
wneilson82
Maybe it will be discontinued if D* get sole rights for IE.

MLB is keeping their Internet stuff even with the D* deal.
DetFan
I've had EI for the past 2 years. I've enjoyed it. At first, I thought I wouldn't watch alot of the games, but what I've found out is that I'll tune in based upon a pitching matchup or just because I want to see a particular team or player that night.

With that said...

--The Milwaukee Brewers announcers keep the game light-hearted. It always seems like the Brewer's fans are taking in some type of promotion

--Vin Scully, the "VOICE" of the Dodgers is incredible to listen to. He paints a picture and give backgrounds information so seemlessly. He is a gem not to be missed.

--Rivalries. Its nice to see what your division foes are doing. Being in Detroit, and finally having something to cheer for last year, it was fun to watch White Sox and Twins games to see how the competition was faring.

--The Watch a Few Innings Factor. I find with EI, I'll watch a few innings of several games as opposed to a whole game.

I have the NFL ST, MLB EI and NHL CI. I doubt I'll renew NHL CI next season. I love my Red Wings and to be honest, am to the point, they are all I want to watch. The NFL ST is always welcome in my home. I just wish the cost wouldn't keep spiriling up.

Im with you on this one, I wont be renewing CI, or League pass next season for that matter. St, and EI, OH Yea, I cannot get enough of them. Betman has killed the NHL, with he stupid rules, and still no national contract. Te schedule is a damn mess. I can get enough by just watching the wings.

THe nba has gotten as bad with all the no touch fouls. I cant stand watching what used to be a beautiful game...
C
I am a direct TV subscriber and I will probably continue to get the baseball package along with the basketball package and the football package. However, anyone that think that this deal is beneficial for them other than Direct TV employees must be smokin' some strong hashish.

If there is only one source providing the package, there are less limits on the amount that can be charged for the package. There is also less incentive to get more games on HD any quicker. Plus with the huge exclusive rights deal, Direct TV will likely choose to raise their prices to recoup their costs.

Whether it is right or legal is an entirely different question. Congress could definitely write a law to outlaw these types of exclusive rights deals. if they wrote such a law, it would become illegal. Perhaps anyone here that is complaining should write their congressman and try and get a law that restricts such deals.

By the way Greg, monopoly laws are not concerned with exclusive rights. As you correctly pointed out, CBS has exclusive rights to broadcast the Super Bowl. Similarly, all patents and copyrights give the holder an exclusive right to sell a product. So, it is clear that the law is not looking to restrict all exclusive rights, it actually encourages many (most?) exclusive rights. However, it is possible that the law could be interpreted to include the exclusive distribution rights of these packages.

Nevertheless, I would recommend a new narrowly tailored law that addresses this issue if someone chooses to go after these exclusive deals. I guess it is possible that Congress or the Courts could hold the anti-trust exemption over the heads of MLB in trying to prevent them from entering into such an exclusive agreement. However, I would guess that that would be unlikely.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

:popcorn
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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teachsac
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
dfergie
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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R
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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