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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I tuned in late to Sportcenter, but I had my trusty (cough cough) 921 set to record the show.

I got tired of watching the show so I went into my DVR list so I could see what the opening looked like.

I am greeted with the following message on my screen when I try to play the show back.

"ATTENTION (679)

The event you selected was not recorded. Please delete this even. It is not viewable."

Man what a POS this 921 is. GRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
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SimpleSimon
John Kotches said:
Hmmm... I seem to recall the US and other countries running numerous atmospheric and underground nuclear weapons testing.

The beta-test of an aircraft carrier is the shakedown cruise ;)

I will say that Dish needs to have more engineers with 921 boxes at home, and a larger stable of external beta-testers.

That still won't cure the issue of latent defects, but it would improve the quality of the initial release.

Cheers,
You're right - but I didn't say "impossible", just "hard". Prior poster implied some things can't be beta'd. I picked the toughest ones I could think of, and it still can be done. :)
T
John Kotches said:
tm:there are always going to be latent defects.
At L184 we are still seeing masses of timers either not firing or being mis-labelled. These problems are not 'latent defects' - they are easily reproducible and are being reported by dozens on this and other forums, and we have gone through a number of software upgrades so they are not oversights.

Somebody please explain what is going on with the flagship product.
John Kotches
tm:

Latent means it passed through testing undetected, only to be discovered in the field.

That says that their testing needs improvement (duh!). See above about rounds of testing.

It would appear based on the results that they aren't applying much in the way of a structured, software engineering approach to their releases but I can't say that conclusively.

Cheers,
C
tm22721 said:
You forgot the most important test phase for a mass market consumer electronics product with complex software - beta test. The more complex the product (especially GUI features), the more beta testers and longer beta test period are required. Dish's product development process is still immature after eight years worth of products.
I'd like to agree with you, but beta testers can't even begin to scratch the surface of the pile of bugs that can exist in a complex piece of equipment, especially if it's based on unproven tech. The folks at DirecTV lucked out when they joined forces with TiVo. By the time DirecTVo came into existence, TiVo, Sony and Philips had shaken the worst of bugs out of the TiVo PVR. I have my second TiVo (80 hour series 2), having given my original Philips unit to my son. Yup, rock solid, and it does a nice job in recording SD content from my Dish 811 receiver (once I got the right remote code entered for the IR blasters).
Enter Charlie Ergen and Echostar. They decide to develop a DVR of their own. Oops -- TiVo has patents on PVR concepts. Gotta license them or come up with something different. I'm sure they had a big can of worms to work with in developing the several different recorders that they've brought to market. The real test comes when the unit gets in the hands of the public.
I've done both alpha and beta testing on a number of software projects in a prior life, and still saw lots of bug reports once the software was handed over to the end user.
I don't have a 921 yet (I have one on order). In the meantime, I'm dealing with the foibles of my 811, and wondering if the OTA tuner on the 921 is better than the one on the 811, and if the picture output from the 921 is as dark, etc. etc. Time will tell, I guess. ;)
T
My 921 was working (more or less) from early January until recently, ie L184 when all hell broke loose, missed timers, re-labelled timers, etc requiring frequent re-boots and timer re-entry.

In its current condition it is virtually useless. After all the reason we have a PVR is to save time and the current software negates that goal.

I exhort E* to roll us back to pre-L184 software.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Don't know if any of you have watched this series yet, it would be interesting to see if you feel this review was accurate. It was very humorous to listen to however.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsDO3y8I2c
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KAB
KAB
What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
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What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
If the review is like the article, oi! Eighteen paragraphs into the review and... all they've done is not really talk at all about the actual thing they are reviewing.

Halfway into the "written" review, I know more about how the writer "thinks" than I do about what they are writing about. I understand their politics, their self-overestimated understanding of film, their inability to be funny.

Takes about 22 paragraphs to get to one that starts "Anyway, the story kicks off...". Talk about Slop! 😂
K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
MikeD-C05
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Jimbo
Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
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Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...
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Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
star trek GIF by HULU


Just sayin...
MikeD-C05
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

All In The Family Nostalgia GIF by Sony Pictures Television
All In The Family Singing GIF by Sony Pictures Television
harshness
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
long_time_Dish
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Gondoliers, Shakespeares, Overseers, Playboys and Bums - Norman Greenbaum
Bobby
I Wish I Was Eighteen Again - George Burns
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I Wish - Stevie Wonder
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Lonesome Road -- The Wonder Who?
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Lonesome Loser - Little River Band