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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum and was hoping someone could give me some advice on an installation problem I am having.

I currently live in an apartment building that does not allow you to drill into the outer brick walls of the building to install a dish. The dish can be mounted any other way so long as you are not drilling into or damaging building property.

My apartment is in the corner of the building, so that my balcony faces one direction and my window is on another "side" of the building, facing a different direction.

The installer from DirecTV came the other day and was very unhelpful. He basically set one foot in my apartment, looked out my balcony and said "you're facing the wrong way" and therefore there was no line of site. I asked him to at least check out my windows, and sure enough when he checked he noted that there was in fact a line of site from my windows. However, he stated there was no way to mount the dish to the window so it couldn't be done. There are thin iron bars on my window, but he stated that there is no equipment that could clamp the dish (which would be the HD dish which I hear is pretty large) to the window and that nothing else could be done.

I then asked him to look again at my balcony, which even though it faces the wrong direction, since I'm in the corner of the building perhaps the dish could be mounted on a horizontal extension off the balcony so that it could face the opposite way (meaning angled towards the building, but it would face the sky since I'm at the corner of the building).

he wouldn't even look out there, saying there was no chance.

Now, is he correct? Or is there some way I could either mount it to the thin iron bars of my window or have some sort of horizontal extension off my balcony so that it could be positioned in the right direction?

I was surprised to see that they really made little effort to set me up and get my business.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated!

Thank you very much.
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NiFi
Rut ro, your talking HD so big ol "slimline" dish. They are heavy and like parachutes when it comes to the wind, so i would have to agree with the installer that the window options are not safe nor would they pass QC checks.

I also dont think your extension idea will fly either, just not enough stability for the dish.

You say your not far from the corner of the building, why not a regular ground pole mount?
boba
You need to understand you are looking at a satellite about the size of a van located 22,300 miles out from the equator. A very slight movement of your dish can move you completely out of the sight of the satellite signal. The wind blowing you a 32nd of an inch can cause a drastic drop in signal,so a poor mounting site is disasterous for enjoying your satellite signal. Next time you move be sure to chose an apartment with a southern view.
J
V Code,
Here is anotherr approach. As a DTV installer for several years and CATV before that I can tell you this may work but you gotta be lucky and spend some money.
The cable outlets in your unit run to a common point in a telco / cable /antenna room somewhere in your building. You can tone or otherwise identify the cable for your unit. Then look again outside the cable drop box (where the cable company connects to your building.) If you can get a LOS (Line of Sight) near the CATV drop you can connect your apartment, and all the other apartments. The installer will be able to ground your system per code and you can begin paying for the DTV commercials instead of the cable company commercials.
Some buildings are or have been connected this way and there are SMAT(System master antenna) companies that convert MDUs (Multiple dwelling units) to this service. The CATV (Community Antenna Television) companies will fight you because they may have paid for the initial rg59 that serves your building. The wire is, however, owned by the building owner, who could give you permission.
Or you could weld a mast to the bars on your windows....unless you post from a JOINT ( penal institution ).

Keep smilin you CATV cx (customer) you,

Joe
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Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like it's probably not going to work out for me....although how does the ground mount work? I literally live on ground level so the window is only like 3 or 4 feet above the ground. Like I said, if I could somehow have the dish in front of the window I'd have a clear line of site, but I can't drill into building property.
J
V Code,
A ground mount is just a 1.6 or 2.0 steel pole in the ground. It is set plumb and the down end needs to be dented before you put the bag of concrete so it won't spin when you mount the OU (outside unit)-dish.

A regular installer will not want to do this because the ground point for the building is probably far far away-where the cable guy hooked up.

RVs use a folding tripod mount that they fold when they move. An irregular installer could do the pole and pass the cable through the window or use a flat coax.

Then you could join the happy DTV family. I could get you an introduction to the actress on channel 101. He an I were in the Marines together.

Joe
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
About 10 years ago I installed a Turbo HD dish with a DP Plus LNB to the eastern arc and have been receiving 72.7 and 61.5 all those years.

Recently I needed to move the dish to a light pole about 20' away and now can not get both satellites to work at the same time. I can get either to work, but not both.

In the beginning of time, I used to install Direct and Dish back when there was only one satellite for each company so small incremental dish movements are second nature.

I found a previous post entitled "1000.4 dish dpp lnb eastern arc" and tried aligning with aluminum foil over the outer feedhorns since a posted picture shows the center feedhorn to be the 72.7. Using that method, I didn't get a signal from any satellite. My direct single coax cable is connected to the #1 F connector. It's kind of confusing when the picture on the post show each LNB F connector has a specific satellite. I thought F connector #1 was the one to use with a single receiver.

Removing all foil and I can get 61.5 or 72.7 but not both. I have done multiple check switch tests and only one or the other satellite is displayed.

So 10 years later, what have I forgotten to do that was so easy back then?

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About 10 years ago I installed a Turbo HD dish with a DP Plus LNB to the eastern arc and have been receiving 72.7 and 61.5 all those years.

Recently I needed to move the dish to a light pole about 20' away and now can not get both satellites to work at the same time. I can get either to work, but not both.

In the beginning of time, I used to install Direct and Dish back when there was only one satellite for each company so small incremental dish movements are second nature.

I found a previous post entitled "1000.4 dish dpp lnb eastern arc" and tried aligning with aluminum foil over the outer feedhorns since a posted picture shows the center feedhorn to be the 72.7. Using that method, I didn't get a signal from any satellite. My direct single coax cable is connected to the #1 F connector. It's kind of confusing when the picture on the post show each LNB F connector has a specific satellite. I thought F connector #1 was the one to use with a single receiver.

Removing all foil and I can get 61.5 or 72.7 but not both. I have done multiple check switch tests and only one or the other satellite is displayed.

So 10 years later, what have I forgotten to do that was so easy back then?

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Since you are in Iowa I recommend getting a Dsh 500+ antenna the biggest antenna on ebay. Just tune in to 110/119 location since 118 is not used any more. You will get 80 signal. Easten arc is weaker.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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CBS's long-running reality hit Big Brother has always been a warts-and-all kind of TV show. But starting this month, you'll be able to see contestants' blemishes, their well-sculpted bodies, and Julie Chen's body glitter more clearly than ever: Vulture has learned that Big Brother, the only regularly scheduled primetime program still shown in standard definition, will finally convert to HDTV when it debuts its 16th season on June 25. While 99.9 percent of primetime shows made the leap to high definition years ago, Big Brother has remained a bit fuzzier, its old-school production style increasingly noticeable as viewers' eyeballs adjusted to the new standard of HD seen all over the dial. Big Brother didn't stay SD out of nostalgia or some Luddite-like opposition to newfangled tech, however. "We've all wanted to go digital," executive producer Allison Grodner told us. So why the delay? It's complicated — literally.

Unlike most scripted and even most studio-based reality shows, Big Brother doesn't just record its cast with a few stationary cameras, edit it over the course of a few days, and then send it along to viewers. The show locks a group of strangers into a specially constructed house built on the CBS Radford Studio lot near Hollywood, films them around the clock, and then turns it all into three one-hour shows, airing each week in near-real time. In order to capture all that backstabbing and Game of Thrones–worthy maneuvering, the Big Brother house is packed with dozens of cameras — fixed and robotic, inside and outside — which collectively record thousands of hours of footage each week. Doing all of this with traditional SD cameras has always been a massive undertaking; transitioning the process from analog to digital required an equally monumental (and costly) effort. "It's not just about swapping out cameras," explains Rich Meehan, who exec-produces Brother alongside Grodner. "Everything had to be changed ... and we couldn't do anything that would jeopardize production of the series."

While the biggest change viewers will see will obviously be that images from the Big Brother house (and Chen's studio set) will now be in crisp high-definition, the new setup will be felt in other ways. "We've added 11 new cameras in the house for better coverage," Meehan says, including some outside and in certain inside rooms and corridors. "We've also lowered some of the cameras so viewers are in the action more." And because HDTV uses a different aspect ratio — 16:9 — the show's camera operators now have many more angles and shots to play with than they did before. "You can now see from the kitchen area to the bedroom in one shot," Meehan says. "It changes the whole look of the house." Grodner says she's looking forward to testing out what she calls her new "high-performance machine," and that even the show's production designers are making tweaks to the set because of HD: "We're mindful of color and texture more," she says. "We're making sure there are layers and dimension to the house." And folks who subscribe to the 24/7 live feed of the show will also benefit. "It'll be a noticeable improvement for the internet viewers," Crivelli says.
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BIG BROTHER, hosted by Julie Chen, will debut early for the second straight summer, beginning Wednesday, June 25 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) with the first of its three weekly broadcasts. The Thursday edition, featuring the live eviction show, premieres June 26 (9:00-10:00 PM) with the first eviction the following week (July 3). The Sunday broadcast premieres June 29 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT).
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Really don't care who wins unless it's whiny Vince, Kelly or Ava, production really doesn't show their true selves.
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Hoping for and should be a Morgan win, Ashley didn't do enough and the whine bag Vince is almost as wishy washy as Lauren was...
dfergie
Ashley did do enough winning final HOH and putting Morgan out, I was surprised Keanu didn't give Vince a vote though...
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Cast revealed today, premieres Thursday…

View: https://youtu.be/XYyf5CEK22M?is=FiWuDJrTQVtG_1UC
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Ignoring the post I featured with their introductions, Thursdays, Fridays and tonights paint a different picture of the hamsters... I went from this is going to suck, to might not be bad season.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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Watched Obsession on digital last night... to my surprise when I fired it up on Apple TV it brought up a DVD-style menu and there was a commentary to listen to! So listened to that, it was great.
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
This week I am going to look into adding IPV6 support on our server. Since we moved to this server last year we have had IPV6 addresses available to us, but I have never used them.

While IPV4 works fine we should probably support both standards.

I am posting this now in case I screw something up, so later in the week when I activate IPV6 if it messes something up people will know why. And I have setup a special email address of ipv6 @ satelliteguys . us (Remove the spaces) for people to report any issues to me.

This work will happen mid week sometime, and I will update this post before I do anything. :)
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Klaatu barada nikto
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IPv6 is one of the few areas of IT that I had ignored. I grok'd most of IPv4 but IPv6 was just something that my Corporation IT overlords never supported.

It works at home, so it would be faster to have SatGuys support IPv6 since most devices try that first, and fall back to IPv4 if it doesn't work. But DNS should be returning IPv4 addresses only if you haven't created the DNS entries for IPv6 addresses.

Thanks for keeping us informed, Scott.
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Directv stream making me angry
Trying to watch the NASCAR race and when TNT 'goes to commercials' they overlay some stupid 'local' commercials. Yes all I have to do is switch channels and go back to the regular feed but the issue is Directv isn't 'going to commercials'.
Yes they are showing commercials but they are doing the split screen so you can still see the race just not hear the audio.

I get they (TNT) like to give you 'local commercial crap' but don't do it during the race when it's a split screen!!!
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K
TNT's C-Band feed usually stops the side by side and has full screen ads and promos during the designated local ad breaks. They are also the ones who trigger the local ad breaks via cue tones that are sent to the C-Band receivers at every provider's headend, so it's also happening at the same time on Comcast, Spectrum, Dish, FiOS, YouTubeTV, etc.

The commercial break at 7:53pm ET was all full screen, with national ads for Arby's and Harbor Freight, promos for some HBO shows and TNT Sports when the local break was triggered, and then a national ad for Breztri after the local ad break ended before they returned to the race at around 7:56pm ET.

If local ads were being triggered at other times and covering up the side by side, that's likely a screwup by Turner/WBD as the avail notice for NASCAR they sent out says that the local breaks are only supposed to trigger between stages.
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They had some full commercial breaks between stages which is fine (they didn't switch to local ads during that…..interesting)
But during stage 1 every break was the side by side that got interrupted by the local crap.
It's rain delayed now
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Really liking this one, probably because I really like Rebecca Ferguson. It has an excellent cast, including Will Patton. Lots of shrouded mystery. Episode 3 was a real nail biter. I never read the book series, so I can't give any comparisons.
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One volume, all three books, $3.99 at Amazon. Possibly today only. Kindle version.

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One volume, all three books, $3.99 at Amazon. Possibly today only. Kindle version.

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Amazing! Just purchased. Thanks!!
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The trailer for the next season of Silo dropped:
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Creepy promotion for the new season on "Silo":
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The juxtaposing present/future (or present/past) story lines are making this season the best of the three, IMO.
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Yeah, I often hate flashback storytelling but this is doing it very well.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Juan
Dish/Directv both will be around (likely combined and rebranded) for at least another 10-15 years.
Yes, the number of subscribers will continue to decrease over time but that is not the end of the world as some like to predict.

And, the business will make money during that time, perhaps not much, but it will be profitable.
But how many cable channels will survive?
A
But how many cable channels will survive?
do we really need 500 tv channels 🤔
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do we really need 500 tv channels 🤔

25 years ago I remember all the threads demanding new channels and the race for DTV and Dish to add channels....all to end up with nothing on! Things really need to be leaned out, we don't need 3 FXs, 5 ESPNs, 8 MTVs
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25 years ago I remember all the threads demanding new channels and the race for DTV and Dish to add channels....all to end up with nothing on! Things really need to be leaned out, we don't need 3 FXs, 5 ESPNs, 8 MTVs
100% agree it's all of the same Bullsh!t on different channels on at different times of the day. they need to drop the pricing down to
Juan
100% agree it's all of the same Bullsh!t on different channels on at different times of the day. they need to drop the pricing down to
Thats because 2 or 3 companies own the majority of the channels
comfortably_numb
Thats because 2 or 3 companies own the majority of the channels

NBC Universal Viacom Taco Bell Mountain Dew Circle K Speedway Pizza Hut Comcast
Jimbo
NBC Universal Viacom Taco Bell Mountain Dew Circle K Speedway Pizza Hut Comcast
What ???
Did you just start a NASCAR thread ????

I thought that was a list of your Car Sponsors !
comfortably_numb
What ???
Did you just start a NASCAR thread ????

Nope, I'm not NascarTed; anybobody remember him???!
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I read yesterday and editorial page suggesting that Space X "could" buy up all of DISH Wireless 5g antennas and the radios in DISH's bankruptcy auction, to build a seamless Hybrid terrestrial-satellite mobile network. Meaning in big cities it would use the terrestrial 5g and in areas without towers they would use the satellite from Starlink Mobile. This would also mean that all the lawsuits over the leases for the towers would be renegotiated with Space X and make most of EchoStar's lawsuits over their failed lease deals go away. Instead of losing monthly rent over a lawsuit that would take years to settle they would get rent from Space X. Also DISH DBS wouldn't have to uninstall and liquidate all the existing 5g equipment for the network, that they just spent the last 5 years installing. So everyone would win in the deal, if they go this route.
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I read yesterday and editorial page suggesting that Space X "could" buy up all of DISH Wireless 5g antennas and the radios in DISH's bankruptcy auction, to build a seamless Hybrid terrestrial-satellite mobile network. Meaning in big cities it would use the terrestrial 5g and in areas without towers they would use the satellite from Starlink Mobile. This would also mean that all the lawsuits over the leases for the towers would be renegotiated with Space X and make most of EchoStar's lawsuits over their failed lease deals go away. Instead of losing monthly rent over a lawsuit that would take years to settle they would get rent from Space X. Also DISH DBS wouldn't have to uninstall and liquidate all the existing 5g equipment for the network, that they just spent the last 5 years installing. So everyone would win in the deal.
Except the tower owners losing rent payments
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Except the tower owners losing rent payments
Spacex would be paying the rent...
primestar31
Nope, I'm not NascarTed; anybobody remember him???!
You mean NascarKen
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