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Last reply Jun 6, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Surge Protector?

Is there a need for a coaxial surge protector for my Dish system? I really have not considered this but lightening came through my Adelphia cable connected to my cable modem and fried it!! It wasn't electrical because the modem, printer and scanner all plugged into surge protector. It came straight through the cable. I am assuming if I still had cable TV all my TV's would be fried also.

This has me wondering if there is some kind of protection for my Dish system hooked to three receivers and TV's? We have lived in this location for 22 yrs. and this is the first lightening strike. It may have been a freak accident, but with a 61" big screen I don't want to risk it.

Thanks for any advice.

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oljim

Jun 6, 2007

Pannamax

Hall

Jun 6, 2007

Just so you're aware, no typical "surge protector", assuming you're talking about the $5-25 "strip" kind, will protect against lightning.

Brandie

Jun 6, 2007

Almost 3 years ago, our home took a direct hit by lightning. It took just about $25000.00 in repairs to make it whole again. Our HD TV was just 6 months old when it hit. It took out the power panel and leaking pipes flooded 3 rooms. The TV was on when it hit. I watched as an orange glow surrounded the house. The picture on the screen just shrunk. TV and all equip was plugged into surge protectors. My computer was plugged into a Universal Power Supply, which actually melted.

It happened on a Saturday night. Wood frame house with stucco siding. The lightning traveled around 2 sides of the house using the metal lathe as a conductor. It blew holes in 2 hose bibs where they came through the wall. It also blew out 2 holes in the stucco. One just below the electric meter, and one on the back of the house. Both holes were at ground level.It wasn't until Wednesday AM that the power was restored.

The TV came back on when the power was turned on as it was on when
the power went off. Had green line, about 1/8th inch wide in the upper right hand corner. Had the TV tested by TV repairman who said the picture tube needed to be replaced. State Farm paid the purchase price for the TV, as well as ALL other costs, less $500.00 deductible. TV still working to this day, knock on wood, with same green line in upper right corner.

The computer is still working fine to this day also. Replaced the UPS.

Just replaced the computer with a laptop and that UPS is now hooked up to the TV and associated equipment, along with 2 other surge protectors.

Bottom line; lightning does what it wants, when it wants. Just stay safe.

David_Levin

Jun 6, 2007

Thanks Brandie - I like your story. Hunker down - be safe. Worry about the kids, not the 60" DLP.

I'm reading a few things from this thread....

A surge protector isn't going to help much with a direct strike. That much voltage could easily jump an isolation transformer (it's already jumping through air). I'm not sure how a distant strike would get to the antenna coax since it's not physically connected to anything outside the house (the phone line is a different story).

Most Dish equipment is leased. If Dish thought a surge protector would save them money, you'd think they'd supply it.

Bottom line - your covered by your homeowners. What a great opportunity to get all your equiptment upgraded at once (but wait till you get the giant hole in your roof fixed).

bhelms

Jun 6, 2007

True - Not much that we can do at the consumer level will protect from a direct lightning strike. That said, much of the damage experienced is more likely from static build-up and/or induced emf from a nearby strike, and we can do a fair amount to protect our equipment from those less severe events. Proper grounding throughout the system, all tied back to the main power entrance, is a big step in that direction. Then the point-of-use surge arrestors have a good chance of doing their jobs. Most folks recommend UPSs for the more expensive pieces of equipment. I also believe more powerful surge protectors installed into the entrance panel and at the phone and cable incoming points are advisable. YMMV...

Word of caution: A homeowner's policy can refuse to cover damages caused ostensibly as a result of an improperly grounded system, like an OTA antenna, cable, or DBS system not grounded in accordance with the NEC and any additional local codes. Make sure your systems are properly grounded. This is an installer responsibly, but ultimately the insured is "holding the bag"!

David L. - I don't think Dish has any liability wrt surge events. No doubt they end up replacing equipment that was not obviously damaged by a surge, but their warranty including the DHPP expressly excludes lightning and/or "acts of God". If a receiver is returned that was obviously "blown-up" by a surge, I suspect Dish (and all other providers) will expect the homeowner to claim that loss with their insurance co. Dish also excludes "installations not grounded in accordance with Dish standards", which I believe essentially allows them to make the owner prove that the system was properly grounded. IIRC, you're an attorney, correct? What's your take on that latter clause...?

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Therm

Last reply 5 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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Juan

Today at 11:52 AM

Not alot of dish customers any more

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Foxbat

Today at 12:12 PM

I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.

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dishstaller

Today at 12:56 PM

I really dislike change for the sake of change

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dishdude

52 minutes ago

I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

5 minutes ago

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

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Almighty1

Today at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Almighty1

37 minutes ago

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1

14 minutes ago

slow_poke_pete said:
wonder why it says that

Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:

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Foxbat

Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 2:31 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

www.apple.com

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

Today at 8:58 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade

No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.

ncted

Today at 9:00 AM

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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navychop

Today at 2:31 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

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This Week in Space 232

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Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event

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Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!

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osu1991

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Last reply Today at 12:59 PM · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus

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December 18, 2026 Paramount plus

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osu1991 said:
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December 18, 2026 Paramount plus

Another Tulsa King spin off.

dishstaller

Today at 12:59 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Another Tulsa King spin off.

But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city

TheRatPatrol

Last reply Today at 12:50 PM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo

Monday at 11:41 PM

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Jimbo

Tuesday at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 1:19 PM

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 2:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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dfergie

Yesterday at 4:37 PM

I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...

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Howard Simmons

Today at 11:30 AM

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Today at 12:50 PM

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

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dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 12:43 PM · posted in Movie Talk

Trailer for new Jim Caviezel movie Ghost Soldier

Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4

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dishstaller

Today at 12:43 PM

BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.

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