129 signal question

[RandallA]

"If I understand you correctly, I will use the 1000 for 110/119 and leave the W adapter on it and the DP dual will hook straight to the Winegard without any adapters needed. Is that correct?"

Yes, that's correct. As far as how much gain you'll see, it all depends on your location and how well you peak it. But you'll definitely see some improvement. For example, I set up a 30'' for a friend and he was getting 101 on TP31 here in the West coast. What do you currently have for TP31?

 

[tsduke]

Mid 80's last I looked during decent weather.

 

[tsduke]

I got the Winegard 24" dish on it's way. I figured 24" should be good enough.

How do I go about getting the starting setup for az, el, skew for a 129 only dish?

 

[gadgtfreek]

I used a dish 500, so youll be good. Sodoun.com has a calculator.

 

[tsduke]

I used a dish 500, so youll be good. Sodoun.com has a calculator.

It was only $30 for the 24". I'm sure there are people getting much worse signal on 129 than myself, but If I can get a better signal and reduce rain fade I'll be happy. Plus I don't mind tinkering with things just to prove I can get better signal.

I also thought it might be nice to have the 2nd dish up there. May come in handy when new sats get launched.

 

[gadgtfreek]

I used the D500 to get 80's and 90's on 129. I had no rain fade during the trop storm we just had and a horrible 1 hour storm last night gave me no issues while watching the sopranos. Its well worth it for the increases you gain on all 3 sats.

 

[tsduke]

Can I do anything to peak the 110/119 ss on the 1000 after removing the DP dual for 129?

Also, when standing behind a dish 1000 are the 3 sats basically straight out more a less? Just wondering about a nearby tree. I don't think it's in my los though.

 

[gadgtfreek]

I adjusted my 1000.2 after using the d500 for 129, it allowed me to get higher SS opn 110 and 119.

They are not really straight out, slight angles from center.

 

[tsduke]

I know that are not really straight out, but they can't be much of an angle off center can they?

 

[tsduke]

I just got my 24' dish. Is there no skew adjustment for a single lnb dish?

 

[RandallA]

I just got my 24' dish. Is there no skew adjustment for a single lnb dish?

No. Skew angle is for 2 or more satellites.

 

[tsduke]

Thanks RandallA. I figured as much, but thought I would ask to be sure.

 

[RandallA]

Thanks RandallA. I figured as much, but thought I would ask to be sure.

Hey, good luck with the installation and let us know how it goes.

 

[Jim5506]

The satellite is generally along a line from the bottom center of the dish through the center of the lnb eye.

 

[tsduke]

Stupid question...Is the center of the bolt on the elevation the measurement point?

 

[Dirtydan]

Stupid question...Is the center of the bolt on the elevation the measurement point?

I think you line-up the flat sliding piece of metal to the left of the bolt to the degree setting you need.

 

[tsduke]

I finally got a 24" dish installed tonight. I don't think I did too bad for my first dish install and the initial peaking of the dish.

I added my new 129 signal strengths to a readings I took awhile ago. The earlier 129 readings from the 1000 were pretty close to the same today before I removed the lnb from the 1000.

Thanks to all who gave tips, pointers and answered my many questions!!

 

[RandallA]

I finally got a 24" dish installed tonight. I don't think I did too bad for my first dish install and the initial peaking of the dish.

I added my new 129 signal strengths to a readings I took awhile ago. The earlier 129 readings from the 1000 were pretty close to the same today before I removed the lnb from the 1000.

Thanks to all who gave tips, pointers and answered my many questions!!

Nice job!

 

[tsduke]

129 can be a bit a trick to peak when it's wobbling around on ss level anyway. SS drops of and ya don't know if it's you or just the cycle of the sat. I've seen tp31 as high a 105 since I finished.

I'm pretty sure I have it set up far enough up and off from the 1000 so that I can swing it to just about any satellite within E*'s current locations. Just in case there is a need to after the new satellites are up and the moves are done. I might not get as far west as 148 but hopefulle there won't be a need for me.

 

[341]

I adjusted my 1000.2 after using the d500 for 129, it allowed me to get higher SS opn 110 and 119.

This might be because we are on different sides of the country?

I live in the Puget Sound area of Washington State where 129 is more of a problem than with most everywhere else. When I decided to upgrade to prepare when FSNW will (eventually *%/&#) go HD, I went out and got a 1000.2 with a a 211 and a 311. When getting pointers for the 1000.2 (I have installed a couple of 500s for friends) is when I found out about the problems with 129 here in the NW. I put it up and, as always, took care in setting the mast and pointing the dish. Readings for 129 were from 40 - mid 60.

I bought a Winegard DS-4061 to use the "LNB IN" for 129 (and cover 129 LNB with foil), but I wanted to do some experimenting. I got a DPP LNB for my 500 dish assembly and wanted to compare the 110/119 signals on both. The surface area is larger on the 1000.2, but the parabola is shaped to direct 3 signals instead of 2 (analogy of a 1 satellite dish vs a 2 satellite dish).

I took extra care to really fine tune the 1000.2, and these are the readings I got (from the 211 receiver):

110 119
Tr 11 = 84 Tr 11 = 100
Tr 15 = 83 Tr 15 = 98
Tr 16 = 87 Tr 16 = 99
Tr 17 = 80 Tr 17 = 97

I then installed the 500 with the DPP LNB and this is what I got:

110 119
Tr 11 = 90 Tr 11 = 99
Tr 15 = 90 Tr 15 = 98
Tr 16 = 97 Tr 16 = 98
Tr 17 = 89 Tr 17 = 96

The readings on 119 stayed about the same but I got an increase on 110 of 6 - 9 points using the 500.

I packed the 1000.2 in it's box and put it away for future use.

And the 24" dish for 129 performed well too:

Tr 01 = 77
Tr 02 = 78
Tr 04 = 90
Tr 05 = 82
Tr 06 = 64
Tr 07 = 77
Tr 08 = 85
Tr 09 = 88
Tr 10 = 87
Tr 11 = 77
Tr 12 = 87
Tr 13 = 88
Tr 16 = 79
Tr 17 = 80
Tr 18 = 78
Tr 21 = 78
Tr 22 = 78
Tr 23 = 79
Tr 27 = 80
Tr 30 = 89
Tr 31 = 95
Tr 32 = 81

For this area, I am quite happy with those 129 readings.