2025-26 College Football

I'm confused. Indiana forever has been about college basketball. Their football team was a jobber in the Big Ten. When did the people in Indiana decide to even have a conversation about utilizing NIL to build a mega dominant football program, forget about actually executing it perfectly seemingly over night?
When Marc Cuban decided to start donating to them.

They did do a Great job in getting Cignetti, he's very good, but they really had no idea if he would be able to do what he's doing till he got here and brought his guys with him ... (which helped immensly because they already knew the offense and defense being run.)
 
I think it shows how the portal can effect a team immensely. I was for it originally, and I understand why its good for players.
Just seams out of control now.
A good QB can go to a school that needs one. Not outplay his competition, or wait for a possible injury.
I don't like or dislike it ... however, there need to be RULES in place, until then, its the Wild Wild West.

Rule I think needs to be implimented is 1 or maybe 2 transfers per Career ... 2nd IF your Coach gets let go.

Put a Cap on how much players can make (Salary Cap) of course then were getting into doing like the NFL, where you need a Bargaining committee which might not be a bad idea.

Maybe even a Cap on how MANY transfers you can sign in a year.
 
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I think it shows how the portal can effect a team immensely. I was for it originally, and I understand why its good for players.
Just seams out of control now.
A good QB can go to a school that needs one. Not outplay his competition, or wait for a possible injury.
They brought this on themselves when the leagues rake in billions in TV revenue and the players got nothing. Now that the players are paid employees the greed evened out. There is more parity now and it's not just the same 4 teams winning it all. They need to change the portal rules though. It should open after the season ends. Coaches can't leave until the end of the season. Recruiting needs to be pushed back.
 
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With my grandparents, parents, uncle, and son all IU alum, I am happy they're happy. Mrs. Foxbat's family was raised differently, so she is being considerate and not rooting against them. She knows that it's going to be quite the IU Love Fest when she get back into the office after last night.

The comptroller at the company I retired from was at the Peach Bowl with her family. It was the chance to see her Alma Mater win their fifteenth game which IU has never done before. Quite the experience!
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It should open after the season ends. Coaches can't leave until the end of the season. Recruiting needs to be pushed back.

These are the kinds of rules that can change. You can't restrict labor (like limiting money earned or number of transfers), unless they organize into a union and the NCAA recognizes that union. Otherwise it would be an anti-trust violation.
 
These are the kinds of rules that can change. You can't restrict labor (like limiting money earned or number of transfers), unless they organize into a union and the NCAA recognizes that union. Otherwise it would be an anti-trust violation.
There has been talk that they need a commissioner to run things.
 
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These are the kinds of rules that can change. You can't restrict labor (like limiting money earned or number of transfers), unless they organize into a union and the NCAA recognizes that union. Otherwise it would be an anti-trust violation.
They will soon be classified as Employees and then have a Union.
 
These are the kinds of rules that can change. You can't restrict labor (like limiting money earned or number of transfers), unless they organize into a union and the NCAA recognizes that union. Otherwise it would be an anti-trust violation.
Why can they not change the number of Transfers allowed... at this point, a player could play for 1 team this week and transfer to the team that won the next week.
We'll just keep moving to the best team available.
 
You can't restrict labor (like limiting money earned or number of transfers)

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The athletes are not employees, thus wouldn't be classified as labor I don't think. There very definitely are restrictions on how much money the school can pay them. The NCAA has always placed restrictions on transfers, no reason they can't continue to. The portal system itself is a limitation to players. I don't mean they can restrict a student from enrolling in another school, but they could set restrictions on their NCAA sports participation.

Pretty much the same principle with NIL. The NCAA obviously can't restrict Nike from paying a player however much they want to for promoting their product. However, the NCAA definitely can and does set rules for participation in their sports and those who don't follow the rules don't participate. There is a committee dedicated to making sure that the NIL money paid to athletes represents a fair value for the sponsorship. Ex: Bill Gates can't just pay every player on a college team $5 million in return for that player making a couple of pro-Microsoft posts on social media.
 
Why can they not change the number of Transfers allowed... at this point, a player could play for 1 team this week and transfer to the team that won the next week.
We'll just keep moving to the best team available.

Because once schools coordinate limits on player movement, they're restraining labor... and that triggers antitrust law.

In NCAA v. Alston, the Supreme Court made clear that the NCAA is not exempt from antitrust scrutiny and that its member schools are competitors coordinating rules that suppress athlete compensation and leverage. While Alston dealt with education-related benefits, the Court's reasoning applies broadly to labor restraints - including transfer restrictions.

Limiting the number of transfers is functionally the same as a no-poach or non-compete agreement. Competing employers can't agree to restrict worker mobility, even if they think it's "good for the system."

Think of it like construction companies in a city: they can't coordinate to cap wages or stop workers from switching job sites. They have to compete in an open labor market.

The only legal way to impose limits - on transfers, pay, drafts, or contracts - is through collective bargaining. That requires players to be recognized as employees, to unionize, and for schools (or conferences) to negotiate rules under the nonstatutory labor exemption.

That's why the NFL can have a draft, the NBA can have max contracts, and MLB can have service-time rules. Without a union, all of those would be illegal. College sports are running into chaos precisely because they're trying to impose labor rules without a labor framework.
 
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The athletes are not employees, thus wouldn't be classified as labor I don't think. There very definitely are restrictions on how much money the school can pay them. The NCAA has always placed restrictions on transfers, no reason they can't continue to. The portal system itself is a limitation to players. I don't mean they can restrict a student from enrolling in another school, but they could set restrictions on their NCAA sports participation.

Pretty much the same principle with NIL. The NCAA obviously can't restrict Nike from paying a player however much they want to for promoting their product. However, the NCAA definitely can and does set rules for participation in their sports and those who don't follow the rules don't participate. There is a committee dedicated to making sure that the NIL money paid to athletes represents a fair value for the sponsorship. Ex: Bill Gates can't just pay every player on a college team $5 million in return for that player making a couple of pro-Microsoft posts on social media.

Employee status isn't the deciding factor here as antitrust law applies whenever competitors coordinate to restrict a market for services, regardless of labels like "student" or "participation." Saying athletes can enroll but not compete is still a restraint on labor mobility, which is why Alston undermined transfer limits even though it wasn't about transfers specifically. As I said above, the only durable way to impose rules like transfer caps, pay limits, or "fair value" controls is through collective bargaining under the labor exemption.

Efforts otherwise will likely be headed back to court.
 
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The athletes are not employees, thus wouldn't be classified as labor I don't think. There very definitely are restrictions on how much money the school can pay them. The NCAA has always placed restrictions on transfers, no reason they can't continue to. The portal system itself is a limitation to players. I don't mean they can restrict a student from enrolling in another school, but they could set restrictions on their NCAA sports participation.

Pretty much the same principle with NIL. The NCAA obviously can't restrict Nike from paying a player however much they want to for promoting their product. However, the NCAA definitely can and does set rules for participation in their sports and those who don't follow the rules don't participate. There is a committee dedicated to making sure that the NIL money paid to athletes represents a fair value for the sponsorship. Ex: Bill Gates can't just pay every player on a college team $5 million in return for that player making a couple of pro-Microsoft posts on social media.
The NCAA has nearly No Power any longer ...
They will have to make a CFP committee or a Commishioner type to set rules up from scratch.

Collective Bargianing is coming soon.
 
Employee status isn't the deciding factor here as antitrust law applies whenever competitors coordinate to restrict a market for services, regardless of labels like "student" or "participation." Saying athletes can enroll but not compete is still a restraint on labor mobility, which is why Alston undermined transfer limits even though it wasn't about transfers specifically. As I said above, the only durable way to impose rules like transfer caps, pay limits, or "fair value" controls is through collective bargaining under the labor exemption.

Efforts otherwise will likely be headed back to court.
Okay, so you're saying that the NCAA is already in violation of anti-trust laws since they limit how much teams can spend and how much players can make through the $20.5 million cap? They also limit when and how a player can change teams through the portal protocol.

Are they even allowed to require players to be full time students or make passing grades? Can they prevent former NFL players from enrolling and playing on a college team? These are all labor restrictive and have been in place for over 100 years.

I'm not challenging your statements as it sounds like you know what you're talking about, just trying to understand.
 
Okay, so you're saying that the NCAA is already in violation of anti-trust laws since they limit how much teams can spend and how much players can make through the $20.5 million cap? They also limit when and how a player can change teams through the portal protocol.

Are they even allowed to require players to be full time students or make passing grades? Can they prevent former NFL players from enrolling and playing on a college team? These are all labor restrictive and have been in place for over 100 years.

I'm not challenging your statements as it sounds like you know what you're talking about, just trying to understand.
They are already allowing it in basketball. A former G League player is on a college roster.
 
Okay, so you're saying that the NCAA is already in violation of anti-trust laws since they limit how much teams can spend and how much players can make through the $20.5 million cap? They also limit when and how a player can change teams through the portal protocol.

Are they even allowed to require players to be full time students or make passing grades? Can they prevent former NFL players from enrolling and playing on a college team? These are all labor restrictive and have been in place for over 100 years.

I'm not challenging your statements as it sounds like you know what you're talking about, just trying to understand.

It's all good, I get the consternation / frustration w/ the topic, it's legally more complex than most realize I'm sure.

The $20.5m cap was part of the House v. NCAA settlement, which is why it's temporarily insulated (it could potentially be challenged in the future). Some of your other questions are another category, rather than limitations on labor. Think of it like a professional certification... the certifying body can set eligibility standards for what counts as the credential (education, exams, ethics), but it can't tell certified professionals how much they can earn or where they're allowed to work. College sports can define what "being a college athlete" is but restricting pay or movement once you're in that system is a different legal category.

All sides probably agree that changes are needed - but change is going to be really messy outside of anything everyone absolutely agrees on.
 

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