811 Dark S-video Fix

keith

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 11, 2003
216
0
My 811 s-video output got brighter with the 264 software upgrade. However, it still looks as if they are using a 4 bit DAC, there is poor dynamic range (poor contrast). There is no detail in the blacks at all, they just made the same poor output a little brighter than it used to be with 263.

I am wondering if this is as good as it will get? Time to shoot off an email to Dish support and make some noise. I have read on these forums that there is a later upgrade to fix the dark s-video output, but mine already got brighter and the picture is now bright and mediocre rather than dark and mediocre.

Keith.
 

MikeF

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 2, 2003
195
0
It's already out
No it is not. This issue has been well documented in this forum that this issue will not be fixed until version 265. If 264 fixed your's, consider yourself lucky. Most people still have the issue.
 

WeeJavaDude

SatelliteGuys Pro
Sep 25, 2003
766
0
SoCal
I have not checked my svideo, but I feel my OTA DVI has gotten darker with 264. I think they need to check the DVI and Composite too, I think detail is lost in the shadows and the picture overall is a little on the dark side.
 

Gordon Small

Well-Known SatelliteGuys Member
Feb 4, 2004
28
0
GaryPen said:
I agree. Mine too.

Interesting because my DVI and S-Video seem brighter. As a matter of fact I had to adjust the TV's brightness down to 75% from 100% when using DVI. S-Video still requires 100% but seems brighter than before the update. Seems there are a lot of differing opinions on what the upgrade did to the brightness. Hmmmm...
 

smodak

SatelliteGuys Pro
Supporting Founder
Jan 13, 2004
162
0
My DVI and S-Video is dark and it is not fixed with 264. Only component is watchable. Never tried composite though.
 

normang

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 4, 2003
180
0
The last tech chat said that 264, which has guide fixes, moved the back inputs to there own setting, but didn't fix all the OTA issues was due at the end of Feb, came out on March 2. The dark picture and hopefully additional OTA fixes and etc, reportedly was due at the end of March, Perhaps on April 1 :)
 

Kevinw

Just a regular guy
Pub Member / Supporter
Dec 2, 2003
2,992
13
Jacksonville, FL
Gordon Small said:
Interesting because my DVI and S-Video seem brighter. As a matter of fact I had to adjust the TV's brightness down to 75% from 100% when using DVI. S-Video still requires 100% but seems brighter than before the update. Seems there are a lot of differing opinions on what the upgrade did to the brightness. Hmmmm...
:confused: 100% Brightness, and at what torch level is your contrast? You need to use a HT set up disk before you burn that thing up. :shocked
 

sprite1741

SatelliteGuys Family
Feb 28, 2004
49
0
Kevinw said:
:confused: 100% Brightness, and at what torch level is your contrast? You need to use a HT set up disk before you burn that thing up. :shocked
It's not worth destroying your TV to get a good pic with the 811. Dish has admitted that the 811 has a dark output, so if yours dosen't I would be checking your TV's settings before it's too late. On mine no amount of adjustments can correct the problem, but I can get the brightness up to good viewing levels, but I won't because it does run the TV in the torch mode, and thats the wrong way to run it.

Also those that say to watch the SD on the component or DVI output, sorry but the image is soft because of the upconverting of the HD output. I'm sure it is acceptable on a small screen but not on any of the big screens I tried it on. Some people can get used to a crappy picture, but not me. I have too much money spent on equipment.

To Dish, please fix the dark SD issue on the 811 sooner than later. I won't leave you because of viacom ( I don't care about those channels anyway), but I will for a poor picture caused by your buggy equipment.
 

normang

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 4, 2003
180
0
Sprite, as indicated in probably a slew of threads. Dish does intend to fix the issue, and while its annoying and a whole host of the descriptors perhaps, its only a matter of time...
 

MikeF

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 2, 2003
195
0
Does anybody actually believe that there will be an upgrade (265?) next week, like was stated in the Retailer Chat??
 

MikeF

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 2, 2003
195
0
Yes, I know it was scheduled for end of March, but it was stated that there would be an upgrade next week, not the end of the month. We'll see
 

normang

SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 4, 2003
180
0
Its possible, but like anything else, until some hits sysinfo and it says 265, its vaporware. If they are delivering 265 next week, I would like to know what it fixes? Is it the dark video, other aspect ratio issues, guide issues, OTA guide issues?
 

sprite1741

SatelliteGuys Family
Feb 28, 2004
49
0
normang said:
Sprite, as indicated in probably a slew of threads. Dish does intend to fix the issue, and while its annoying and a whole host of the descriptors perhaps, its only a matter of time...

I know a fix is in the works, hopefully after 265 downloads it will be a non-issue, I mearly wanted to state that this problem is bad enough to start exploring other alternatives. I think Dish is the best value out there and plan on staying their customer.
 
Top