Adding 118.7w to 1000.2

elsalek

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HI
I have a dish 1000.2 with 3 lnbs 110 , 119 , 129
can i get 118.7 with the above setup?
if not i need to add 118.7
which is the best recommendation to take
waiting for your advise
thanks

regards
 
You can add a 500+ wing dish to the 1000.2 but you might as well take down the 1000.2 and pick up 110/118.7/119/129 with a 1000+ (which is just a 500+ with a 129 LNB added.)


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ok so i have 2 solutions
1 - adding a new 500+ dish , but in this case can I take the output from its 118.7w lnb directly to my 1000.2 input without using the 500+ internal switch?

2 - replacing my 1000.2 with 1000+ , in this case can i just use the same 1000.2 mast and just switch dishes ? since i don't want new holes in my roof

thanks for your prompt replies
 
I'm dubious about the wing dish solutions as they don't seem to be contemplating the fact that 118.75W is an FSS signal that needs a vertical/horizontal polarity LNB and a larger dish than the 1000.2.

The easy answer to the question is the complete 1000+ dish. It uses the same 1-5/8" mast but begs for support struts.
 
I'm dubious about the wing dish solutions as they don't seem to be contemplating the fact that 118.75W is an FSS signal that needs a vertical/horizontal polarity LNB and a larger dish than the 1000.2.
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118.75W has a very strong signal and 118.75W is circular FSS - not V/H.
 
ok so i have 2 solutions
1 - adding a new 500+ dish , but in this case can I take the output from its 118.7w lnb directly to my 1000.2 input without using the 500+ internal switch?

2 - replacing my 1000.2 with 1000+ , in this case can i just use the same 1000.2 mast and just switch dishes ? since i don't want new holes in my roof

thanks for your prompt replies

There are two types of 500+ LNBs. The older, original 500+ LNB has no internal switch and the main LNB picks up 118.7/119. It has separate ports for each sat. 110/129 are separate LNBs, and all LNBs must have lines run to a DPP44 switch. In your case, you would take the 118.7 feed, and hook it to the LNB IN port on the 1000.2 LNB/switch assembly. The newer DPP 500+ LNB picks up 110/118.7/119, still requiring a separate LNB for 129. Doubtful that the newer LNB can be used as a wing, as the 1000.2 switch wouldn't signal the 500+ switch to disable, unlike the DPP44.

The best solution would be to replace the 1000.2 with the 1000+, preferably utilizing the newer DPP 500+ LNB, so that there is no need for an external switch. The mount is the same as the 1000.2 however you will want to use struts. Also recommended to use a mast specifically designed for the 500+ dish, as it is reinforced. The 500+ is a bit larger and much heavier dish than the 1000.2.

For cost and ease, I'd recommend getting the Dish Protection Plan, order an upgrade, could be free, could be $15, then $7/Mo for four months. $43 at most, versus $100+ to buy a dish yourself, plus time/energy invested in mounting/peaking the new dish. You can cancel the Protection Plan after 120 days. If you cancel before 120 days, you will incur a $25 fee, plus lose the Protection Plan benefits.
 
There are two types of 500+ LNBs. The older, original 500+ LNB has no internal switch and the main LNB picks up 118.7/119. It has separate ports for each sat. 110/129 are separate LNBs, and all LNBs must have lines run to a DPP44 switch. In your case, you would take the 118.7 feed, and hook it to the LNB IN port on the 1000.2 LNB/switch assembly. The newer DPP 500+ LNB picks up 110/118.7/119, still requiring a separate LNB for 129. Doubtful that the newer LNB can be used as a wing, as the 1000.2 switch wouldn't signal the 500+ switch to disable, unlike the DPP44.

The best solution would be to replace the 1000.2 with the 1000+, preferably utilizing the newer DPP 500+ LNB, so that there is no need for an external switch. The mount is the same as the 1000.2 however you will want to use struts. Also recommended to use a mast specifically designed for the 500+ dish, as it is reinforced. The 500+ is a bit larger and much heavier dish than the 1000.2.

For cost and ease, I'd recommend getting the Dish Protection Plan, order an upgrade, could be free, could be $15, then $7/Mo for four months. $43 at most, versus $100+ to buy a dish yourself, plus time/energy invested in mounting/peaking the new dish. You can cancel the Protection Plan after 120 days. If you cancel before 120 days, you will incur a $25 fee, plus lose the Protection Plan benefits.
You need to update your terms on the protection plan on June 13th I believe price went up term of serevice went to 180 days and early termination fees changed just search satellite guys for latest thread.
 
Oh yeah. I forgot. Still, cheaper than buying your own equipment.


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118.75W has a very strong signal and 118.75W is circular FSS - not V/H.
Strong FSS is an oxymoron. If it were such a blazing hot signal, it wouldn't require a dish similar in size to the behemoth DIRECTV Slimline for a frequency that is slightly lower than the other slots. The ERP for the FSS transponders is 5.5 and the ERP for the Ku transponders is typically 6.5.

I misinterpreted what I read on Lyngsat regarding the polarity. You are correct about it being circular.
 
Strong FSS is an oxymoron. If it were such a blazing hot signal, it wouldn't require a dish similar in size to the behemoth DIRECTV Slimline for a frequency that is slightly lower than the other slots. The ERP for the FSS transponders is 5.5 and the ERP for the Ku transponders is typically 6.5.

I misinterpreted what I read on Lyngsat regarding the polarity. You are correct about it being circular.

By way of clarification, the footprint (what the subscribers dish receives) for 118.75W at the edge of the continental US is 49 -50 dbw or higher and similar or higher than a number of other Dish DBS (12.2-12.7) beams.
 
One thing, if you currently do not have international programming, and an international dish/LNB, then even with the protection plan, you pay the cost of the tech(free, $15,$95) plus the international setup fee of $100. They recently changed it that you don't have to pay, if you have it already, and you set up a movers, but for first time installation of the 118.7 LNB, dish will charge $100. Figured that was an important peice of information.
 
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