Can you operate off 129W only?

[MikeInAlaska]

I do not have a clear shot to 119W on my property. We grab our 119W from our neighbors dish, an ancient LNB on a ?10 year old receiver?

I have a clear shot to 129W. Can I just get an HD box and use it only for 129W? (And flip back to my old box for anything off 119W?)

 

[SpaethCo]

If you have a DVR you won't get the 9 day extended guide data from 129, but otherwise it would probably work.

 

[Laddyboy]

If you have a DVR you won't get the 9 day extended guide data from 129, but otherwise it would probably work.

There's HD on 110W as well. Do you get that one in the clear? See the link to The List at the top of the page to see what programming is on what satellite.

 

[Mr Tony]

Your location (Alaska) has a lot of HD on 110

HD for Alaska on 129
SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 129°W

HD for Alaska on 110
SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 110°W

 

[Mr Tony]

but if you got a HD receiver yes you can run it just off 129.
There are folks who have run a HD receiver off 61.5 only

But you could combine the 129 feed and the 119 feed with either a DP34 or a SW21 depending on LNB setup (assuming the 119 LNB is an older Legacy LNB you would need a SW21)

 

[Pen15head]

what about software updates? i thought only 110 119 61.5 were the only birds that spooled software. once his software is outta date he would loose authorization. or did they start spooling software off of 129 when ciel2 took its place?

 

[Mr Tony]

software is spooled off all sats....sometimes it takes longer depending on the sat but I'm pretty sure 129 gets software updates

I use to get software upgrades on my unscubscribed 811 that had a line only to 110 (was used for OTA and my locals were on 110 to get guide data)

 

[Pen15head]

ok, so 129 is good. however, its not all sats. 118.7 does not spool any software. maybe they cant do it off fss?

 

[Mr Tony]

last I checked they could spool of 118.7

Few folks here have Int'l only so the tech only hooks up 118.7 and save on the DP34

 

[Smith P.]

Unfortunately for foreigners with one FSS 118.75W LNBF... there is a table of all FW services taken today :

Number	Name	Sat	Tp
------  -----   ----    ---
36863	DNL	61.5	29
36854	DNL10	61.5	29
36853	DNL12	61.5	29
36859	DNL3	61.5	29
36857	DNL6	61.5	29
36855	DNL7	61.5	29
36850	DNL8	61.5	29
36851	DNL9	61.5	29
36860	SSD	61.5	29
[U]36852	DNL11	61.5	32  <-- ViP only, include 922[/U]

[U]36852	DNL11	110	13  <-- ViP only, include 922[/U]
36863	DNL	110	21
36849	DNL1	110	21
36854	DNL10	110	21
36859	DNL3	110	21
36857	DNL6	110	21
36855	DNL7	110	21
36850	DNL8	110	21
36860	SSD	110	21

36863	DNL	119	19
36849	DNL1	119	19
36854	DNL10	119	19
36852	DNL11	119	19
36853	DNL12	119	19
36859	DNL3	119	19
36857	DNL6	119	19
36855	DNL7	119	19
36850	DNL8	119	19
36851	DNL9	119	19
36860	SSD	119	19

36863	DNL	121	21
36854	DNL10	121	21
36859	DNL3	121	21
36857	DNL6	121	21
36855	DNL7	121	21
36860	SSD	121	21

36863	DNL	129	21
36853	DNL12	129	21
36859	DNL3	129	21
36855	DNL7	129	21
36850	DNL8	129	21
36860	SSD	129	21
[U]36852	DNL11	129	30  <-- ViP only, include 922[/U]

 

[Mr Tony]

interesting

I can understand no 72/77 as EA would have 61.5 but odd that no 118.7 in the mix

Thanks for the info

 

[Smith P.]

I saw many recent installs for those poor ppl and all of them done with D500+, some with just the combo DSS/FSS, so at least they have 119W in the setup.

 

[Mr Tony]

if the tech actually hooked up 119

 

[Smith P.]

ah, those are some bastards without DP21

 

[Pen15head]

generally techs seem to hook up either 110 or 119 with a sw21 depending on which one the locals come off of for their dma

 

[DishSubLA]

interesting

I can understand no 72/77 as EA would have 61.5 but odd that no 118.7 in the mix

Thanks for the info

Not really. AFAIK, Dish does not officially do installs that look at 118.7 only (nor 129 either for the same reasons to follow). In fact, in the WA, if someone wants to subscribe to internationals only, the are supposed to get Dish 500+ becuase, even if they don't have any core services, Dish wants them looking at the core satellites as well for purposes of software spool, EPG, and should it become necessary to move or add some internationals to the 119/110 slots. In fact it allows Dish the flexibility of putting some of the international sports tournaments at the 119/110 slots so it is available for all who don't subscribe internationals but will buy the tournament games and not have to mirror it at 118.7. It allows Dish greater flexibility. Also, years down the road, as technology advances, internationals may be put at the core sats. It would save them money not to have to do re-installs. In other words, Dish now wants everybody, at least in the WA, to be looking at 119 and 110 even if they subscribe to HD only or internationals only.

 

[dbajaer]

simple solution

Here is what I would do, just fix up the neighbors antenna, grab a simple dish 500 that can look at 110 and 119, be sure to use a dp PLUS TWIN LNB, put your dish on 129 and connect that lead into the DPP Twin input lead, then run a line to his reciever and one to yours, you will have all of the HD and can use a dual or DVR receiver with a simple Dish Separator. If it works better, move your antenna to his roof and save some coax. Coax is very inexpensive.

 

[Tomboy257]

I was thinking about this same thing. Was curious about using 129 in the RV with the Winegard roof dish for overnighting.

 

[Smith P.]

Bad config if ground will fail

Here is what I would do, just fix up the neighbors antenna, grab a simple dish 500 that can look at 110 and 119, be sure to use a dp PLUS TWIN LNB, put your dish on 129 and connect that lead into the DPP Twin input lead, then run a line to his reciever and one to yours, you will have all of the HD and can use a dual or DVR receiver with a simple Dish Separator. If it works better, move your antenna to his roof and save some coax. Coax is very inexpensive.

Sounds good, but there is big problem - grounding and more important if the electrical ground would fail on any side one day for one minute.

 

[MikeInAlaska]

Thanks!! Still trying to figure out THE PLAN....

Current plan version... 40" with dual LNB on roof to get 110 and 119
6 footer in back yard to get 129