Canadian - audit worries

Bob Haller

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I detected a neighbors dishcomm from I beieve 10 homes away.

Right after that the power company upgraded and split the homes into many transformers. dishcom ended at that point.

it appears audit just shuts down extra receivers leaving just one active.

might be best to lease, that way you could just return the permanetely turned off ones if audit ever hassled you.

preventing ownng a 722 doorstop........
 
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peano

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Leasing won't work for a Canuck - no SSN.

FlexTv is the way to go with Dish. No SSN and no technician visit.
 
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barfo

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What does Dish and other companies that 'require' SSNs do about legal residents of the USA that don't have SSNs?
 
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barfo

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ALL LEGAL residents have SSN#

I didn't realize that. OK, then, what about someone who is legally visitng the US (maybe a foreign professor on temporary leave in the USA, maybe someone who is in the US for a few months to help care for a parent, etc. Do these legal visitors get SSNs, and if not, are they precluded from getting dishnetwork?
 
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peano

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Lots of Canadians work in the US for many months at a time legally yet do not have an SSN.

Others spend 6 months a year in Florida as residents and do not possess an SSN.
 
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barfo

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Lots of Canadians work in the US for many months at a time legally yet do not have an SSN.

Others spend 6 months a year in Florida as residents and do not possess an SSN.
That makes sense. So surely there must be a way for these long term visitors to subscribe when in the USA even though they don't have a SSN. How do they do it?
 
Slamminc11

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That makes sense. So surely there must be a way for these long term visitors to subscribe when in the USA even though they don't have a SSN. How do they do it?

pay cash and buy the receivers?
 
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panache70

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It is quite simple really.

If you do not have a SSN or you do not want to provide your SSN, you can go on Flex (Pay in Advance).

You will not have access to any discounted rates available to new customers.
You pay full price, one month ahead.
 
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whydontchathen

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The dish cable must be RG6. But you might get away with two cat5 cables for the HDMI output to the TV via wallplate adapters.


not sure what that means, but hey, thanks for the reply! ;)

ok, so I'm guessing that RG6 is the proper name for coaxial cable, check.

"....for the HDMI output to the TV via wallplate adapters" hmmm....?????

from the satellite receiver box (Set Top Box) to the TV ????? nope, not gettin' it.... but hey thanks anyway!!

I'll keep pluggin' away at this.....
 
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whydontchathen

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It is quite simple really.

If you do not have a SSN or you do not want to provide your SSN, you can go on Flex (Pay in Advance).

You will not have access to any discounted rates available to new customers.
You pay full price, one month ahead.


well that's a drag! I want discounted rates! yeah I was planning to buy the receiver(s), and pay for the service on my CDN CC..... paperless billing.....

Are there any Canucks (Albertans?) who have this working for them, can tell me if they get to watch Dish or DT satellite without ever having technical difficulties? A PM would be greatly appreciated....

tks,

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TheKrell

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from the satellite receiver box (Set Top Box) to the TV ????? nope, not gettin' it....
Exactly right. The receivers accept UHF remotes, and you can feed the HD signal over cat5. So you put the receiver anywhere you can run a coax to the dish antenna, and then run the receiver's output to your TV over cat5. What's not to understand?
 
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I seem unlucky.

Due to an unexpected charge on my CC my payment bounced and my service got suspended. When I attempted to get it resumed, they asked for the CC name on the card (which was different than the account name) they asked to speak with the card holder.

No problem there, but I guess it set something off, because now I have to talk the Audit team (I goggled the # they gave me) to get my service restored.

My account used to be a broker account.

I would assume I would be better getting a new account than getting back my account from the audit team.

Anyone got a broker with a good rep ?

SR
 
Derwin0

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I didn't realize that. OK, then, what about someone who is legally visitng the US (maybe a foreign professor on temporary leave in the USA, maybe someone who is in the US for a few months to help care for a parent, etc. Do these legal visitors get SSNs, and if not, are they precluded from getting dishnetwork?
Just use their ITIN.
 
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kazuma05

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Be carefull hooking a receiver to a phone or ethernet connection. I had a customer who was audited by the equipment verification team, because the phone number that he was just given by the phone company was listed at another address. After faxxing in proof to the EVT deptartment he was able to remove the audit. Dish is quick to audit accounts. As agents we are required submit account information to the EVT if a customer/caller states that there is more than one home with a receiver but only one account. If a customer says that receiver in a room, but it is locked and can't get to, we also have forward info to the EVT deptartment. Don't ever tell an agent that your home is outside or the US or they will turn you off ASAP.
 
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whydontchathen

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Exactly right. The receivers accept UHF remotes, and you can feed the HD signal over cat5. So you put the receiver anywhere you can run a coax to the dish antenna, and then run the receiver's output to your TV over cat5. What's not to understand?


what's not to understand???? a-hahahaha! :)


Hi again Krell!

The receivers accept UHF remotes,
- what does that mean, exactly? I know that UHF means Ultra High Frequency, ..........

and you can feed the HD signal over cat5.
- ok, this means the wire from the receiver to the tv can be CAT5? Is that right?

So you put the receiver anywhere you can run a coax to the dish antenna, and then run the receiver's output to your TV over cat5
- OKAAAAY! THIS I understand!!!! :) :D

thanks Krell!!!



let me state again, the wiring inside my walls is CAT5, but I'm getting that that is useless here, I'll need coaxial cable (RG6?) to run from the dish to the receiver, then the short distance from the receiver to the tv is outside the walls anyway, so I can run whatever is the optimum wire choice for that connection span. Is that right Krell?


THANKS!!!
 
TheKrell

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...I'll need coaxial cable (RG6?) to run from the dish to the receiver, then the short distance from the receiver to the tv is outside the walls anyway, so I can run whatever is the optimum wire choice for that connection span. Is that right Krell?
Well, yes, but I'm not sure you are fully understanding the freedom you have with that UHF remote. The receiver does not need to be anywhere near the TV. You can put it some place where you can run RG6 easily. I put my 722 in my equipment closet along with my network gear, the furnace, and the water heater. No need to hide the wires because it's already not pretty and nobody but I go in there anyway. You can then use your cat5 to run your HDMI receiver output to your TV. Very neat installation, actually.
 
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space*ranger

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Is it better to have 2 receivers or 1 VIP 222K unit - to avoid an audit hit or does it not really matter ?

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QCK

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If you only have one receiver there is really no reason for them to call you, if you have more than one receiver it is possible for you to be account stacking. So the answer to your question is you are safest with only one receiever.
 
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