Compatibility of DPPH 3 sat head with Dish 1000 arm

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I have an old DISH 1000 strapped to my chimney with 110,119 and 129 working well into a 722. Dish menu system refers to it as a Dish 500 and It has 2 coax cables. I am upgrading to a Hopper 3. A DPH 42 I understand will make it compatable with the Hopper, but requires adding another coax. I also read that replacing the lnb with a DPPH will also work eliminating the switch and seems like a better solution. My question is, will the DPPH 3 sat head fit on my old Dish 1000 arm?
 
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I have an old DISH 1000 strapped to my chimney with 110,119 and 129 working well into a 722. Dish menu system refers to it as a Dish 500 and It has 2 coax cables. I am upgrading to a Hopper 3. A DPH 42 I understand will make it compatable with the Hopper, but requires adding another coax. I also read that replacing the lnb with a DPPH will also work eliminating the switch and seems like a better solution. My question is, will the DPPH 3 sat head fit on my old Dish 1000 arm?
You would be better off getting a 1000.2 Dish, w/hybrid lnb a big 1000 dish has a different focal point than 1000.2 which a hybrid is made for. So it's not just the arm. Unless you have an old 1000.2 fish and not the 1000+ dish I think you're talking about with the 119/118 lnb. ? If it's just a 1000.2 dish the hybrid should just bolt on. If you buy the LNB new, it comes with an adapter bracket to bolt onto arm.
 

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I have a single hopper 3 and one Joey. I have no plans to expand on that. Further reading to bring myself up to speed on this new stuff looks like i can use a solo node with my existing antenna DPP LNB and no power insertion reqirements necessary.Am I correct?
I the 129 sat will disappear in a week where will the new satellite be located and does this mean repointing?.
 

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I have a single hopper 3 and one Joey. I have no plans to expand on that. Further reading to bring myself up to speed on this new stuff looks like i can use a solo node with my existing antenna DPP LNB and no power insertion reqirements necessary.Am I correct?
I the 129 sat will disappear in a week where will the new satellite be located and does this mean repointing?.
So, you have a Hopper 3 and a Joey. Are they working today or are you a new install? You do not use a solo node with a Hopper 3, it uses a Solo Hybrid Hub. If your LNB is not a Hybrid, you will require a 42 switch to introduce hybrid technology to your system. There is no new satellite. Everything that was on 129 has been moved to 110 and 119. There is no repoint necessary.
 
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I have a single hopper 3 and one Joey. I have no plans to expand on that. Further reading to bring myself up to speed on this new stuff looks like i can use a solo node with my existing antenna DPP LNB and no power insertion reqirements necessary.Am I correct?
I the 129 sat will disappear in a week where will the new satellite be located and does this mean repointing?.
Hopper3 requires dph lnd and a solo hub.
 
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Will the sat location 118 (international channels) be obsolete if Dish decides to move them to main satellites or streaming exclusive in the future?

I heard international channels customers can still receive sat 118 on DPH system but a wing dish may be required lol. Unless you can put dish 1000+ hybrid LNB lol.


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Will the sat location 118 (international channels) be obsolete if Dish decides to move them to main satellites or streaming exclusive in the future?

I heard international channels customers can still receive sat 118 on DPH system but a wing dish may be required lol. Unless you can put dish 1000+ hybrid LNB lol.


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International dishes require a 42 switch, not a wing dish
 

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International dishes require a 42 switch, not a wing dish
That's good to here as things changed over time.

As I posted in:

I am on Western Arc. When I first had DISH installed with America's Top 250 package & JadeWorld (International Chinese Cantonese programming using 118) in November 17, 2012 with a Hopper 2000, it was a DISH 500+ antenna and DPP 500+ switch with 110/118/119 but no 129.

When I upgraded the Hopper 2000 to the Hopper 3 on February 7, 201 - they installed a new 1000.2 antenna for the 110/119/129 and also used my existing Dish 500+ as a wing dish for 118 but I have no idea how they are physically connected.

When I have a chance in the near future, I'll see what I actually have connected up there.
 
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That's good to here as things changed over time.

As I posted in:

I am on Western Arc. When I first had DISH installed with America's Top 250 package & JadeWorld (International Chinese Cantonese programming using 118) in November 17, 2012 with a Hopper 2000, it was a DISH 500+ antenna and DPP 500+ switch with 110/118/119 but no 129.

When I upgraded the Hopper 2000 to the Hopper 3 on February 7, 201 - they installed a new 1000.2 antenna for the 110/119/129 and also used my existing Dish 500+ as a wing dish for 118 but I have no idea how they are physically connected.

When I have a chance in the near future, I'll see what I actually have connected up there.
That was the method before 42 switches. Your old DP500 - the one with one big camera eye-looking lens is connected to the input on the 1000.2 LNBF. they use the port out on the left side as that's the 118 "winged" into the 110/119/129 LNBF
 

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That was the method before 42 switches. Your old DP500 - the one with one big camera eye-looking lens is connected to the input on the 1000.2 LNBF. they use the port out on the left side as that's the 118 "winged" into the 110/119/129 LNBF
Thanks, always something new to learn. When I looked at the Hopper 3 Diagnostics, the DISH screen shows the switch as Hybrid Triple WA.2. I remember charlesrshell asking about how international dishes were connected back in February 2016 when I got the Hopper 3 upgrade and read earlier today, he actually did his install in June 2017 which was almost 1.5 years later. For whatever reason, I kept thinking he would have had the Hopper 3 before I did. LOL. In any case, are there any advantages in the signal level between the method I am using compared to the newer 42 switch method?
 
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Thanks, always something new to learn. When I looked at the Hopper 3 Diagnostics, the DISH screen shows the switch as Hybrid Triple WA.2. I remember charlesrshell asking about how international dishes were connected back in February 2016 when I got the Hopper 3 upgrade and read earlier today, he actually did his install in June 2017 which was almost 1.5 years later. For whatever reason, I kept thinking he would have had the Hopper 3 before I did. LOL. In any case, are there any advantages in the signal level between the method I am using compared to the newer 42 switch method?
Charles was waiting for the introduction of the 42 switch which was required to have 2 Hopper 3s.
 

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Thanks, always something new to learn. When I looked at the Hopper 3 Diagnostics, the DISH screen shows the switch as Hybrid Triple WA.2. I remember charlesrshell asking about how international dishes were connected back in February 2016 when I got the Hopper 3 upgrade and read earlier today, he actually did his install in June 2017 which was almost 1.5 years later. For whatever reason, I kept thinking he would have had the Hopper 3 before I did. LOL. In any case, are there any advantages in the signal level between the method I am using compared to the newer 42 switch method?
To me, the advantage is not having that big old 1000+ Dish with a 1000.2 Dish on your roof and instead just a 1000+ Dish - which with 8 lags is a lot of roof penetration points. Now, without the 29, it's a much easier cabling job and over all has less fail points
 

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