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But they won't..only 2 million want it now
And only 10-11 Million out of 123 Million want DirecTV, what is your point.

None of us know how many will subscribe when it is opened up to everyone, I think it might be closer to 5% of 123 Million Households, which is still 6 Million, times $300, is $1.8 Billion, then revenue from Busineses ( Bars, Restaurants, Casinos, etc) and Advertising could still make it profitable.
What are the numbers for Extra Innings, everyone has access to it. Sure it's not ST but it's widely available.
Just looked it up, 3.5 Million as of 2020, and Baseball is not even close to the popularity of the NFL.
 
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2 million... of the 14m subscribers DirecTV has.
DirecTV Satellite does not have 14 Million, that number includes Uverse ( estimation at still over 2 million subs) and the Streaming Services.
 
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And only 10-11 Million out of 123 Million want DirecTV, what is your point.

None of us know how many will subscribe when it is opened up to everyone, I think it might be closer to 5% of 123 Million Households, which is still 6 Million, times $300, is $1.8 Billion, then revenue from Busineses ( Bars, Restaurants, Casinos, etc) and Advertising could still make it profitable.

Just looked it up, 3.5 Million as of 2020, and Baseball is not even close to the popularity of the NFL.
Baseball costs $100... you can get it mid season at 1/2 price...football has 18 sundays vs thousands of baseball games for a third the price
 
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Baseball costs $100... you can get it mid season at 1/2 price...football has 18 sundays vs thousands of baseball games for a third the price
Don asked, I answered, and if I remembered correctly, do they not discount NFLST midway thru the season?
 
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Don asked, I answered, and if I remembered correctly, do they not discount NFLST midway thru the season?
They give it away free before the season starts to good customers and they still only get 2 million subs
 
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Never said that.

If 10% of 123 million Households get ST, that is basically 12 million, times $300 is $3.6 Billion Dollars, then it is a success, glad you are seeing things my way .
I'm not looking at Money ....
I said years ago that when it left to go elsewhere that it would still be around $300 ... because D* already established that the NFL sports fan would pay that.

That said, they may start it closer to $200 and then get up to $300.

That article said it had to run around $300, it didn't say it couldn't be discounted.
 
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You really can't go by Extra Innings because, there are various versions out there available, where as there isn't other widely available ST packages.
Just in general, how many people subscribe to some form of Extra Innings.
 
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So roughly 20 million people watch football on a regular sunday schedule

2 million taking an out of network package is 10%

12 million woul be 60%.. ( not happening)

4 million would be 20%

Don't see that many unserved fans
 
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And only 10-11 Million out of 123 Million want DirecTV, what is your point.

None of us know how many will subscribe when it is opened up to everyone, I think it might be closer to 5% of 123 Million Households, which is still 6 Million, times $300, is $1.8 Billion, then revenue from Busineses ( Bars, Restaurants, Casinos, etc) and Advertising could still make it profitable.

Just looked it up, 3.5 Million as of 2020, and Baseball is not even close to the popularity of the NFL.
Was that Extra Innings or MLB.TV .....
I saw an article with numbers similar to that, and then it mentioned Streaming.
 
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Was that Extra Innings or MLB.TV .....
I saw an article with numbers similar to that, and then it mentioned Streaming.
MLB.TV since it is streaming-

Also, I cannot find any sub numbers on Extra Innings, must be a secret.

*Extra Innings *is a Cable TV subscription package offered by participating pay TV providers that allows you to watch out-of-market MLB games on television. Each Extra Innings package varies by pay TV provider. Some Extra Innings Packages include a subscription to MLB.TV.

MLB.TV is a streaming package that enables subscribers to view out-of-market MLB games live and on demand online on computers and supported mobile and connected devices. More details available here.
 
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The thing about MLB.tv is that T-Mobil gives it away for free to customers every year for at least the past three years. For that price, I subscribe (Netflix, too).

I’m assuming the number for MLB is paid subscriptions?
 
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Never said that.

If 10% of 123 million Households get ST, that is basically 12 million, times $300 is $3.6 Billion Dollars, then it is a success, glad you are seeing things my way .
Except that is about TWICE the number of people who watch the regular "free" game at 4:25 each Sunday.

The idea, once again, is not that, somehow, ST is "unavailable" to anyone is simply wrong. You are having a discussion of "what if In N Out Burger" opened places in Florida, since they do so well in California?" Anyone who wants ST can have it. Extrapolating that, somehow, millions of people have been sitting around, dumbly looking at their phone, wishing oh wishing it would get ST, is just wrong. Rather people want ST, have it. This incorrect view takes you down a path where ST can somehow be profitable on a cash basis. It cannot. It is a loss leader. And thus must be predicated on some other service.

So it looks like either Amazon, Apple, or Disney will lose money on this, and all WILL predicate access to ST on first buying the basic item they sell.

And, well, it looks like DirecTV will sub-contract with the winner for at least the commercail distribution rights, as streaming is really not ready for prime time there, and perhaps for general reseller rights to its luxury home customers. Great news.

But no, there are not going to be more subscribers to ST, than currenlty watch "free" games on regular TV.
 
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The idea, once again, is not that, somehow, ST is "unavailable" to anyone is simply wrong.
It is unavailable to those who do not want DirecTV ( which is over 110 million Households).

To get NFLST, you have to agree to a two year contract with DirecTV, that is a $2735.76 commitment ( used choice with 3 boxes), that is a big ask, specially today when people get discounts on Live TV bundled with Broadband or less expensive services like YTTV and Hulu.

And do not forget the 60 Million Households that do not get Live TV but love streaming ( the under 35 crowd).

And before anyone makes the comment that the 60 million cannot afford Live TV, my son (32) makes roughly $80,000 a year (Computer Coding), Daughter (27) makes a tad over $40,000 ( 2nd year Teacher), they both can afford it, they just do not want it, happy with Netflix and the likes.
And, well, it looks like DirecTV will sub-contract with the winner for at least the commercail distribution rights, as streaming is really not ready for prime time there, and perhaps for general reseller rights to its luxury home customers. Great news.
No truth to that.

That was from a News Story which said DirecTV wants to make a deal with the winner, also said this-

Still, it’s unclear whether the winning bidder would be interested in such a partnership. Building a commercial relationship may be enticing for Disney, Apple or Amazon, and the winner may want to be the direct contact for all Sunday Ticket subscribers.

But no, there are not going to be more subscribers to ST, than currenlty watch "free" games on regular TV.
This-
The 2021 NFL regular season averaged 17.1 million viewers (TV and Digital) – the highest regular-season average since 2015 and up more than 10% from 2020.


That is 15 million more then DirecTV NFLST Subscribers.

If they can just get 8 million of that 17 million, that is $2.4 Billion and don’t forget Advertising Revenue and Commercial Establishments.
 
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It is unavailable to those who do not want DirecTV ( which is over 110 million Households).

To get NFLST, you have to agree to a two year contract with DirecTV, that is a $2735.76 commitment ( used choice with 3 boxes), that is a big ask, specially today when people get discounts on Live TV bundled with Broadband or less expensive services like YTTV and Hulu.

And do not forget the 60 Million Households that do not get Live TV but love streaming ( the under 35 crowd).

And before anyone makes the comment that the 60 million cannot afford Live TV, my son (32) makes roughly $80,000 a year (Computer Coding), Daughter (27) makes a tad over $40,000 ( 2nd year Teacher), they both can afford it, they just do not want it, happy with Netflix and the likes.

No truth to that.

That was from a News Story which said DirecTV wants to make a deal with the winner, also said this-

Still, it’s unclear whether the winning bidder would be interested in such a partnership. Building a commercial relationship may be enticing for Disney, Apple or Amazon, and the winner may want to be the direct contact for all Sunday Ticket subscribers.


This-
The 2021 NFL regular season averaged 17.1 million viewers (TV and Digital) – the highest regular-season average since 2015 and up more than 10% from 2020.


That is 15 million more then DirecTV NFLST Subscribers.

If they can just get 8 million of that 17 million, that is $2.4 Billion and don’t forget Advertising Revenue and Commercial Establishments.
Why would they if their team was on free tv?
 
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Why would they if their team was on free tv?
People do move to different states, I am a example of that.

The other point, right now you have to have DirecTV to get NFLST, at a cost of $2735.70 ( average monthly cost of roughly $114) just for DirecTV ( then the cost of ST unless you get it for free) over two years, then you would get the local games and the out of town games.

Or use a antenna to get the local game plus $300, lot cheaper that way, average monthly costs of $25.00 over a year.

Or a different TV service, like YTTV, average monthly costs over a year, $90 with ST.

That is the benefit of NFLST going to streaming, opened up to everyone and will save subscribers money.
 
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Why would they if their team was on free tv?
Speaking for me personally, I dont have a team in particular I follow. I follow players. So the players I want to follow may not be on my local channels for free.
 
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