Dish Loses AutoHop Lawsuit

[Scott Greczkowski]

Dish hit with $469 million verdict over commercial-skipping technology

Dish Network LLC must pay $469 million for infringing two patents held by parental-control technology maker ClearPlay Inc related to filtering material from streaming video, a jury in U.S. federal court in Utah has decided.

www.reuters.com

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[Mister Coke]

Dish need to forgot about this and put mydish back up and stop telling people to go to mydish..

 

[HipKat]

Triple posted

Original here

Dish Loses ClearPlay Patent Lawsuit

It has not been a good month for Dish. First the hackers and now a $469 million adverse verdict for ad skipping technology. Dish expected to appeal. https://www.reuters.com/legal/dish-hit-with-469-million-verdict-over-commercial-skipping-technology-2023-03-13/

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[tjboston5676]

I believe they will win the appeal. Whoever the judge is that worked the case is an idiot as are most old judges when it comes to technology. The clear play system filters language and nudity and auto hop isn't even a filter at all. It just simply skips commercials, but the commercials are still technically there. It's two seperate technologies and it's absurd a judge would rule in favor of clear play.

 

[strikes2k]

I believe they will win the appeal. Whoever the judge is that worked the case is an idiot as are most old judges when it comes to technology. The clear play system filters language and nudity and auto hop isn't even a filter at all. It just simply skips commercials, but the commercials are still technically there. It's two seperate technologies and it's absurd a judge would rule in favor of clear play.

It was a jury trial. They still might win an appeal. I don't know the technical details of the patent or what DISH does with autohop but it wasn't a judge who ruled against them.

 

[jackson85]

Triple posted

Original here

Dish Loses ClearPlay Patent Lawsuit

It has not been a good month for Dish. First the hackers and now a $469 million adverse verdict for ad skipping technology. Dish expected to appeal. https://www.reuters.com/legal/dish-hit-with-469-million-verdict-over-commercial-skipping-technology-2023-03-13/

www.satelliteguys.us

So, what does this really mean??? Will Dish Customers no longer have access to having Auto Hop on Local Networks???

 

[nelson61]

Either Dish wins on appeal or decides to pay a royalty for the patent or may modify their technology to avoid the patent - or give up and eliminates auto hop.
It will be years before it is resolved in any case.

 

[Jim5506]

Autohop is not that big of a deal. I've got the 30 second skip forward button. Works all the time even on live program slightly delayed.

 

[Josephinelcajon]

I have moved to streaming and the skip forward 30 seconds. I never ever watch live TV. The autohopping was a fantastic idea that got destroyed by the networks. Most people do not understand advertising is the main way TV shows are funded,

 

[Josephinelcajon]

Sorry forgot to ask. I have not followed this. So, at this point is auto hopping possibly going away if an appeal is not won?

 

[NYDutch]

Sorry forgot to ask. I have not followed this. So, at this point is auto hopping possibly going away if an appeal is not won?

These patent suits often end up with the parties reaching a licensing agreement.

 

[Bruce]

These patent suits often end up with the parties reaching a licensing agreement.

or a settlement, for example-

On Monday, the companies announced they had settled their ongoing patent litigation, with Dish and EchoStar agreeing to pay TiVo $500 million, including an initial payment of $300 million, with the remaining $200 million to be distributed in six equal annual installments between 2012 and 2017. With earlier payments factored in, Dish's TiVo-related bill will exceed $600 million.

https://www.lightreading.com/dish-echostar-to-pay-tivo-$500m-to-settle-suit/d/d-id/686343

 

[NYDutch]

or a settlement, for example-

On Monday, the companies announced they had settled their ongoing patent litigation, with Dish and EchoStar agreeing to pay TiVo $500 million, including an initial payment of $300 million, with the remaining $200 million to be distributed in six equal annual installments between 2012 and 2017. With earlier payments factored in, Dish's TiVo-related bill will exceed $600 million.

https://www.lightreading.com/dish-echostar-to-pay-tivo-$500m-to-settle-suit/d/d-id/686343

Did you miss this part of the agreement?

"Under the agreement, TiVo granted Dish a license for the patent and some "related patents" for the remaining life of those patents, and EchoStar has issued TiVo a license for some of its DVR-related patents to cover TiVo-branded, co-branded and "ingredient-branded" products."

 

[Tampa8]

Dish need to forgot about this and put mydish back up and stop telling people to go to mydish..

One has zero, zip, nada to do with the other. I don't think the people litigating during the day are working on servers at night.

 

[syphix]

Judge overturns the jury's verdict. Now DISH has WON the lawsuit and won't have to pay.

US judge overturns $469 million verdict against Dish Network over streaming patents

(Reuters) -A Utah federal judge on Tuesday overturned a jury's verdict that Dish Network LLC must pay $469 million to parental-control technology maker ClearPlay Inc for infringing two patents related to filtering material from streaming video. U.S. District Judge David Nuffer reversed the...

news.yahoo.com

 

[KaptainRandom]

I have moved to streaming and the skip forward 30 seconds. I never ever watch live TV. The autohopping was a fantastic idea that got destroyed by the networks. Most people do not understand advertising is the main way TV shows are funded,

Ads used to be the main funding...
Nowadays it is retrans fees

 

[tanman]

Judge overturns the jury's verdict. Now DISH has WON the lawsuit and won't have to pay.

US judge overturns $469 million verdict against Dish Network over streaming patents

(Reuters) -A Utah federal judge on Tuesday overturned a jury's verdict that Dish Network LLC must pay $469 million to parental-control technology maker ClearPlay Inc for infringing two patents related to filtering material from streaming video. U.S. District Judge David Nuffer reversed the...

news.yahoo.com

I suppose the other party could appeal. Of course Dish should be paying their lawyers to answer the phones-not defend against lawsuits! All hands on deck!

 

[Tampa8]

It was a jury trial. They still might win an appeal. I don't know the technical details of the patent or what DISH does with autohop but it wasn't a judge who ruled against them.

You nailed it.