then i hope any SD channel that is added from now on is only added as a PPV. why should i have to subsidize what I don't watch?
Dish non responsive to its customer wants
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What, do you think you are the only customer paying for content you don't watch? Come on!
I don't remember being asked my sexual preference when I signed up for dish so don't know where the 10% figure is from.
Just like the statistics you hear about the president's approval rating......the % comes from a poll. Of course you probably didn't get a call or even knew they were holding that poll. Statistically, only polling ~1180 people in the US will give you a pretty good idea of how the population (so they say). Do I think these polls are done correctly? Not at all. But thats another story.
But to answer your question, they are using the statistic that came from a poll that shows that 10% of the US population is gay. So if 10% of the US population is gay, then saying 10% of E*'s subs are gay is probably not just pulling numbers out of your rear.
To get real technical, we could bring a lot more factors into the equation (Rural vs. Urban, etc...).
Actually that wasn't the case at all. (So much for being "obvious"...) Here! was dropped because their technology changed. They had to take it off Satellite TV. They hope to have it back on Dish by year end is what they said, but it will take some kind of technology upgrade.
And please with the "why should I have to pay for that kind of programming" line... I'm not into BET, so why should I have to pay for it? Personally, I wish everything could be a la carte, but it's not so if there is an audience, it should be allowed.
It's always funny how people can be so flippant about one group of individuals.
And please with the "why should I have to pay for that kind of programming" line... I'm not into BET, so why should I have to pay for it? Personally, I wish everything could be a la carte, but it's not so if there is an audience, it should be allowed.
It's always funny how people can be so flippant about one group of individuals.
Yous started it in the post above mine. Of course I dont think i am the only customer paying for content i dont watch. However I was responding to your comment. In repsonse to your post, I'm now hoping the channels that YOU'D like to see in the future are added only as PPVs, since you hoped that for one I'd like to see. If a channel gets added by E*, then E* decided the addition outweighed the cost. Obviously at this time, Logo's addition does not outweigh the cost, either in carriage fee, or transponder space or both, else we'd probably have it. I am as aware as any of us that we're paying for many channels that we don't necessarily watch. Hell, I have all but 49 channels locked out.
ESPN does not promote homosexuality. Something i'd rather my kid not see. The same goes MTV.
You know, don't you, that the only kids that turn out gay are the ones whose parents tried to shield them from 'seeing' it, or who prayed for them to not be gay. There's tons of research that supports what I'm saying.
That's exactly my reason for saying it should be on PPV or a pay channel. LOGO isn't what I consider family friendly content.
That's what the Dish Family package and/or channel locks are for. You're a peach if you think that anything other than 'family friendly programming' should be PPV. What do you really know about Logo, other than that it is a 'gay' channel?
Then get the family pak. So you are fine with your kids seeing the multiple partners/multiple marriages on the Soap operas that are on regular tv? You are fine with the T & A shows that are shown on Spike? You are fine with the "My boyfriend raped me so I am going to get him back" shows on Lifetime?
Maybe you didn't realize, but there is a way that you can block a channel you don't want with Dish's receivers.
Just because you don't want to watch (or your family to watch) a channel that is your choice, but why should someone who is gay have to pay extra ppv charges to watch a channel geared toward them when men, women, blacks, mexicans, christians, techies, kids, chefs, gardeners, animals, sports fans, racing fans, music fans, soap fans, news fans don't have to pay extra ppv charges for the channels geared toward them.
If LOGO were showing sex like the porn channels, then I would completely agree with you about putting it in PPV, but considering their content (in context) is no different than what is shown in Spike, MTV, or your daily OTA local channel soap opera's, then LOGO should have a place in at least the AT200 or AT250. But PPV, sorry!
I don't agree with the content you mention either, but just because it already exists doesn't mean I should be ok with more content I feel inappropriate being added.
I do know how to operate my receiver and block channels, but there are plenty of people who do not.
No offense to the original poster, but this thread is a perfect example of the "me" generation. Has everyone forgotten that the satellite companies are in business to make a profit? Just because one person (or a small percentage of users) want a certain channel doesn't mean it makes good business sense for the company you subscribe to.
The answer as what to do is incredibly easy...voice your displeasure with your wallet. If D* or a cable company in your area offers the channel, switch. That's what I did when I wanted Comedy Central back in the late 90s and our cable company didn't offer it. Will you lose other channels you like? Possibly. But if LOGO is the one channel you really want, switch. Don't just cry and moan that a multi-billion dollar company won't give you the one channel you want.
This is just like walking into a Burger King and complaining that they don't carry Big Macs. If you want a Big Mac, go to where Big Macs are offered.
The answer as what to do is incredibly easy...voice your displeasure with your wallet. If D* or a cable company in your area offers the channel, switch. That's what I did when I wanted Comedy Central back in the late 90s and our cable company didn't offer it. Will you lose other channels you like? Possibly. But if LOGO is the one channel you really want, switch. Don't just cry and moan that a multi-billion dollar company won't give you the one channel you want.
This is just like walking into a Burger King and complaining that they don't carry Big Macs. If you want a Big Mac, go to where Big Macs are offered.
Well then all sports and religious programing should be ppv as well. Remember gay people have families and children too and we want our views and our families to be show cased also. Dish has 7 jesus channels that preach hate as well as most primetime tv programs are filled with violence. I guess some people would rather their children see violence and hate then two people loving each other.
This is not a true comparison. There are hundreds of places to get burgers but only 2 satellite providers.
"I do know how to operate my receiver and block channels, but there are plenty of people who do not."
And for those that do not know how to block a channel there is even a whole channel devoted to them, which I have no need or interest in. Blocking a channel is extremely easy to do and if a parent is too stupid for find out how, that's their problem and not ours. My main concern is that LOGO is nationwide available channel offered by MTV that is carried by Direct TV, Cablevison, Comcast and most cable companies across our nation and the world is still turning and there haven' been any riots in the streets I have seen because of it. Why should I have to leave a company that I have invested time and money into for a new channel that the competitor's have picked up but mine hasn't? If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for Dish, especially if they want to stay competitive and claim to be the best.
And for those that do not know how to block a channel there is even a whole channel devoted to them, which I have no need or interest in. Blocking a channel is extremely easy to do and if a parent is too stupid for find out how, that's their problem and not ours. My main concern is that LOGO is nationwide available channel offered by MTV that is carried by Direct TV, Cablevison, Comcast and most cable companies across our nation and the world is still turning and there haven' been any riots in the streets I have seen because of it. Why should I have to leave a company that I have invested time and money into for a new channel that the competitor's have picked up but mine hasn't? If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for Dish, especially if they want to stay competitive and claim to be the best.
Nope, it's quite the fair comparison.
You want a Big Mac (Logo) and there is a place where you can get it...McDonalds (D*). You can ask Burger King (E*) to carry the same item, but if they say no, they aren't being unreasonable if it doesn't fit into their business plan. We aren't talking about just any burger (any random channel), we are talking about a specific burger (Logo), that is available from a specific provider (D*). I guess we could talk about how it's not a copyrighted product that E* could carry, but the point is still there...it's offered somewhere that you can get it, so why not go get it instead of waiting and waiting and waiting for E* to change their minds to carry it.
If you or the OP want the channel bad enough, go to where it's being offered. That's what perfectly reasonable, sensible people do when they want something. I wanted Comedy Central back in the late 90s and my cable company refused to carry it. I went to where it was offered and didn't switch back until the cable company carried it (late 2001).
You have a false premise comparing burgers and satellite service.
I don't have to spend 100s of dollars inorder to buy a table in the restaurant to eat the burger. Using your premise it is like me asking burger king to carry the big mac, which they don't have too, but both burger king and mcdonalds charge for returant space for me to eat the burger. So true Burger king doesn't have to carry the big mac but if I go to mcdonalds to get the big mac mcdonalds will charge me for table space to eat the burger.
Dish Network is merely charging for an all-you-can-eat buffet. They charge one price for your fewest options at the buffet and then charge more for more choices. Because, after all, shrimp costs more than the hot dog and roll.
However, just because you pay for the option that offers the most choices (Top 250, in this case), doesn't guarantee they have every possible food you may want.
This doesn't stop you from going to another buffet that has things more to your liking...
However, just because you pay for the option that offers the most choices (Top 250, in this case), doesn't guarantee they have every possible food you may want.
This doesn't stop you from going to another buffet that has things more to your liking...
