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[HipKat]

We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

I don't think I ever knew you were in NY

 

[rvvaquero]

there's a forum called howard forums. It's all about phone companies

I agree that's where this phone company discussion probably should be. I've been visiting howardforums twice a day for over 20 years, discovered lot's of really good deals and info there. However, whereas they used to have hundreds of contributors daily, it's now down to less than a dozen regulars and a couple of negative moderators. The site is on it's last legs. I think most participants have moved to reddit.

Just saying.

 

[EarDemon]

It happened just recently, I think about four months ago.

We're in eastern upstate NY and AT&T is pretty good, for the most part it's 5G+. T-Mobile is definitely the fastest but not the best coverage, AT&T is next fastest with the best overall coverage and Verizon is the slowest with the worst coverage.

We're also looking forward to the new bands coming online.

Well that is good news! Around here AT&T mid-band is only in the big suburbs and what I would call 'rural cities', a small city in a rural county that is usually the county seat. There are many rural towers I'm seeing 1.5 - 2 Gbps on with T-Mobile where AT&T is LTE only. And Verizon is humming along at 1 Gbps or a little higher on c-band.

I know I've said this many times, but my ultimate plan one day is to get a commercial grade 5G router that supports dual SIM and have T-Mobile and FirstNet SIMs activated. I want to wait until their are units that can support n14 and n79. I can't see spending well over $1000 on something that will be gimped in a couple of years.

 

[EarDemon]

Wow ,who would of thought there was this much to talk about when it came to phone companies?

There's a ton to talk about. It's just most people are ignorant when it comes to their hopeless addiction to their phones and spend a lot of time on them but have no idea how the signal gets from point A to B thinking they work on magic, wishes and unicorn farts. They only care when they are at an event with thousands of other people and can't do their tick tocks and Snapgrams and their $1500 shiny toys are useless, I really don't give a damn about phones themselves but I have a tremendous interest in the underlying technology.

I always have Signal Check Pro and Network Cell Info open, looking to see what I'm connected to and watch the levels fluctuate as I move around as environmental variables change.

On my FirstNet line, Signal Check Pro would only show the indepth info for the LTE anchor bands when on 5G on my Pixel Fold 9 & 10. On the Pixel Fold 11 it shows everything. Not sure why the change, it has nothing to do with SA v NSA. When I saw that, it was like Christmas morning for me.

I'm not perfect, but I'm getting pretty good where I can drive by a tower and know which provider(s) is on it and can pick out each provider by the rack.

 

[Almighty1]

Sorry, I meant Consolidated. That's who provided my DSL when I lived there and the tech who installed it told me they provide the backhaul to that tower. People's has only been in town for two years, maybe less.

DSL is a different animal as it depends which ISP you used as there was also Northpoint, Rythms and Covad as many others who acted as data CLECs depending on the flavor of DSL and if it was symmetrical or asymmetrical. Even with backhauls, there can be more than one backhaul which may or may not using different transport providers so Consolidated could have just been one of the many for redundancy in case one had issues like a fiber cut. We have fiber cabinets from what was GTE Hawaiiantel, Time Warner Telecom Hawaii and GST Hawaii.

 

[Almighty1]

One ringy dingy, two ringy dingies...

And then there is the "Thank you for using AT&T where we reach out and touch someone!"

 

[Almighty1]

There's a ton to talk about. It's just most people are ignorant when it comes to their hopeless addiction to their phones and spend a lot of time on them but have no idea how the signal gets from point A to B thinking they work on magic, wishes and unicorn farts. They only care when they are at an event with thousands of other people and can't do their tick tocks and Snapgrams and their $1500 shiny toys are useless, I really don't give a damn about phones themselves but I have a tremendous interest in the underlying technology.

I always have Signal Check Pro and Network Cell Info open, looking to see what I'm connected to and watch the levels fluctuate as I move around as environmental variables change.

On my FirstNet line, Signal Check Pro would only show the indepth info for the LTE anchor bands when on 5G on my Pixel Fold 9 & 10. On the Pixel Fold 11 it shows everything. Not sure why the change, it has nothing to do with SA v NSA. When I saw that, it was like Christmas morning for me.

I'm not perfect, but I'm getting pretty good where I can drive by a tower and know which provider(s) is on it and can pick out each provider by the rack.

Yes because it's the same like people who could not use computers if there was not the GUI. Give them Unix and they can't even do the basics.

Even here in California in the older days, those who had Pacific Bell Mobile Services or MCI which used PBMS or T-Mobile which used PBMS towers or Sprint PCS or AT&T GSM in the older days, they could buy the best phones that were not U.S. models and it would be nothing more than a paperweight most of the time due to lack of signal.

People pay too much attention to bars and not the actual signal strengh which is measured in dBm (decibel-milliwatts). And then lots of people do not even realize that the best phones are those that works not when the signal is strong but when there is almost no signal. As even the same model phone would not be exactly the same as they just have to meet the spec, some will perform better because it will exceed the minimum specs required.

then there is the power output which is measured in Watts that also would determine if one will have a usable signal or not when the signal is low.

 

[Almighty1]

there's a forum called howard forums. It's all about phone companies

Yes and people will usually call it HoFo. For Internet, it was dslreports which I believe finally disappeared as there is nothing newer than January 2025 as the site was running on it's own for years.

 

[Almighty1]

I agree that's where this phone company discussion probably should be. I've been visiting howardforums twice a day for over 20 years, discovered lot's of really good deals and info there. However, whereas they used to have hundreds of contributors daily, it's now down to less than a dozen regulars and a couple of negative moderators. The site is on it's last legs. I think most participants have moved to reddit.

Just saying.

Yes, that's true. I haven't visited it for quite some time and it seems like while US Mobile seems to be famous elsewhere, it's not on HoFo as people there seem to question if it's really as good as people claim it is. I forgot if DSLReports which is valuable for internet service providers and also to a certain extent, at least with XFinity mobile included wireless phone company discussions as well.

 

[comfortably_numb]

US Mobile seems to be famous elsewhere

I use US Mobile and it's fabulous, option to use any of the Big 3 and the customer service is outstanding.