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Does anyone on here know if DISHnet will include or offer current customers Gen 5 speeds? I have asked phone reps but all I’ve talked to are clueless.
 

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I still haven't figured out the process to upgrade. Prior to Gen 5's launch, we were told it would be 100% upgraded, but I've only seen a handful. in that time I've dome more migrations of HT1000 modems to HT1100 than I have J1 to J2/Gen 5 upgrades

Now, we just got a notice I'm scratching my head over. If there no line of sight for the Gen 5 Sat on an upgrade, use the same parameters as Jupiter 1, meaning you'll get a new dish and gateway, but still 1-3Mb/s download speed. Hardly an upgrade, if you ask me since my Gen 5 installs are seeing 45-60 Mb/s.

Also, it's all Hughesnet now. Dish is only filling the role of installing it. Any questions or problems go to Hughes, not Dish.
 

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40 to 50 is more like it and that's only during the day around here. During prime time it drops down to about 10 to 15.
Also depends on what beam(transponder) you are on. Some are fuller than others. One beam here drops really bad during prime time, the other still runs in the thirties at prime time.
 

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Also depends on what beam(transponder) you are on. Some are fuller than others. One beam here drops really bad during prime time, the other still runs in the thirties at prime time.

Yes it does. That's why I said 'around here' in my post. :)

That said I've never seen or heard of anything over 50 and that was even when the satellite was brand new and totally empty. Have you?
 

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Yes it does. That's why I said 'around here' in my post. :)

That said I've never seen or heard of anything over 50 and that was even when the satellite was brand new and totally empty. Have you?
Sorry didn't catch that. :)
Yes, when it was new I saw a little faster in the 50's. 56 or 58 was the highest I saw with speedtest.net.
I have tried several speed test sites and some are too low and some are crazy high. I don't remember which one but was seeing 94 and ping at 233. I knew it was wrong!! :D
 

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Sorry didn't catch that. :)
Yes, when it was new I saw a little faster in the 50's. 56 or 58 was the highest I saw with speedtest.net.
I have tried several speed test sites and some are too low and some are crazy high. I don't remember which one but was seeing 94 and ping at 233. I knew it was wrong!! :D

Supposedly the new ViaSat2 is going to have some 100meg beams. Unfortunately from what we've heard so far we're not under one of them. :(

I sure would like to see something over 50 from satellite soon. My DSL tops out at 7.5 down and .8 up. That's right, point eight. :smash
 
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I went to both the Dish and Hughes websites and they are only saying 25 mbps. The highest data plan is 50 gig and then slower speeds above that. I could not read what the slower speed drops to. Given that a HD show on Netflix uses 3 gig per hour and a 4K show uses close to 7 gig per hour. I would be out of data in about 4 days.
 

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Supposedly the new ViaSat2 is going to have some 100meg beams. Unfortunately from what we've heard so far we're not under one of them. :(

I sure would like to see something over 50 from satellite soon. My DSL tops out at 7.5 down and .8 up. That's right, point eight. :smash
My mothers house was the same was and she was paying for higher. Had techs out a time or two and she lives in town. They finally ran Fiber through there a couple of years ago and I talked her into switching. She gets near 100M both ways now!!
 
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I went to both the Dish and Hughes websites and they are only saying 25 mbps. The highest data plan is 50 gig and then slower speeds above that. I could not read what the slower speed drops to. Given that a HD show on Netflix uses 3 gig per hour and a 4K show uses close to 7 gig per hour. I would be out of data in about 4 days.
Satellite internet is not for people with access to anything else. It is for people in rural areas that have no other access to high speed internet( or reliable access).
 

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I don't know anything different speeds on different beams or how a system works during peak hours. I use the speedtest app, typically, which has always seemed accurate enough. I said 60 because I saw that once, but typically, at install, I see speeds over 40 consistently on Gen 5
 

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We routinely see 25-30Mbps speeds with the cell based AT&T "Mobley" hotspot in our RV. We have a "Max Amp RV" cell booster/repeater installed, and have yet to be anywhere that we didn't have a good usable 4G/LTE signal. I'm patiently waiting to see what the new in the works LEO sat Internet services from Elon Musk, etc., bring us in the way of the promised worldwide access, high speeds, and low latency. Add "portability" to that, and they'll really have something!
 

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I went to both the Dish and Hughes websites and they are only saying 25 mbps. The highest data plan is 50 gig and then slower speeds above that. I could not read what the slower speed drops to. Given that a HD show on Netflix uses 3 gig per hour and a 4K show uses close to 7 gig per hour. I would be out of data in about 4 days.

Which explains why satellite is a last resort for those who have no other options for internet other than dial up or slow DSL. It's only for those of us who live in the boonies.
 

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IS there another satellite planned or in the works after Viasat 2?

Wouldn't you think Hughesnet is sweating bullets? If either of those LEO schemes work out, I'd think Hughesnet would be toast. In 2020, IF a LEO Internet system is working and not even more outrageously priced and capped, all current satellite Internet services would see their business vanish.

Or am I missing some advantage the current system will have over the LEO idea?
 
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A customer weren’t have to choose which service on his own because Dish will specify Hughesnet or Viasat depending on the area. At least that’s how it has been in Illinois. Some areas get Hughesnet and some Viasat although that may have changed. Truth is I’ve only Done Hughesnet for the last year
 

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Which explains why satellite is a last resort for those who have no other options for internet other than dial up or slow DSL. It's only for those of us who live in the boonies.


Or those that want a somewhat reliable back up.

I have 120 x 12 from Spectrum (fastest I can get), but have HughesNet for backup. Both connected to a dual WAN Cisco router configured for automatic failover.

I live in a rural area and needed a backup solution for work in case I were to be stuck home because of a snowstorm like I was in 2014 and lost cable service. Verizon does not offer DSL to my address. Some areas of my town can get it via RT, but speeds top out at either 1.5 or 3 Mbps down (can’t remember which). Cellular is not an option. As I come to find out by switching my mobile phone service to them earlier in the week, I have zero T-Mobile reception anywhere near me, AT&T is weak to nonexistent, Sprint gets me poor 3G and weak 4G at best if in the right area of the house, and Verizon Wireless fades out in the back half of the house where all of my computer gear is.

While I have not needed to rely on HughesNet in the almost year I’ve had it, the service is very poor most of the time on Gen 4 for me. Sometimes I can achieve pings 800ms or less and get speeds 25-30 Mbps down x 1.5 Mb up, which actually isn’t too bad for connecting to work via VPN. I can connect fine and even use RDP and VNC without too much of a hassle. Yes, takes a little while to make the initial connection, it’s slow to render the remote display, and there’s a little bit of a delay, but it will do the job if need be and is actually better then I thought it would be. But most of the time that is not the case. Quite often during prime time, I get pings of 1000ms+, 1 to 2 Mbps down and best, and barley anything on the upload. I was planning to see about upgrading to Gen 5, not a fan though of the forced wifi gateway with a higher rental fee though.
 

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