Echo II gone?! (CONFIRMED) (Echostar 2)

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The problem with MPEG-4 is that there are 20-30 million MPEG-2 receivers out there. If you go $100 each to replace you are looking at 2-3 billion dollars. They could put up 10 satellites for that much money. Yes they need customers to upgrade, but they want to do it slowly and spread the cost out. Having customers pay for the upgrade is even better.

Dude, we're replacing the 811 & 6000 rcvrs for FREE... you get a 211. We've been sending out mailers.
 
Dude, we're replacing the 811 & 6000 rcvrs for FREE... you get a 211. We've been sending out mailers.

That is a very small number of HD receivers. Dish has not even stopped selling MPEG-2 standard definition receivers yet, one would expect that to be the first step.
 
Which of E*'s SD receivers that are now being installed, are MPEG4 compatible?

I was advocating here a couple of years ago that E* should stop shipping any & all receivers that could not decode MPEG4, in order to give them a leg up on a future conversion of all SD & HD to that format.
 
Which of E*'s SD receivers that are now being installed, are MPEG4 compatible?

I was advocating here a couple of years ago that E* should stop shipping any & all receivers that could not decode MPEG4, in order to give them a leg up on a future conversion of all SD & HD to that format.

None.

DirecTV has a mpeg4 "SD" DVR model, the R22, but that's really an HR21 that's firmware disabled the HD output.

Because of the computational requirements of decoding mpeg4 it doesn't really make sense to develop a true SD receiver, so the switch will happen when E* decides to send HD-capable receivers to all customers.
 
None.

DirecTV has a mpeg4 "SD" DVR model, the R22, but that's really an HR21 that's firmware disabled the HD output.

Because of the computational requirements of decoding mpeg4 it doesn't really make sense to develop a true SD receiver, so the switch will happen when E* decides to send HD-capable receivers to all customers.

It's all cycles too. I expect in the near future the base receiver will be a 211 or equivalent.

Best,
 
The only reasons that I can think of Dish Network not already shipping out receiver to all customers capable to do MPEG-4 is due to the fact that cost must be enough higher for Dish to make it unfeasable for them at this time (more than just a little more even in quantity). They might also figure that most are not interested in HD enough to make it worth the investment to do this yet. They might be waiting for MPEG-4 to come down in price to be more close to the same price of MPEG-2. Dish may have already ordered a lot of the MPEG-2 product to where they need to "dump" it and figure by the time they do that, MPEG-4 will be that much cheaper.

If they just launch satellite locations that support the MPEG-4 location (Eastern Arc) for all new customers and existing upgrading customers to HD instead of swapping all receivers then that saves them money. As customers churn they would have that many fewer customers using the Legacy 110/119 location and not have the additional putting money swapping their receivers to MPEG-4 when most would not be interested in getting HD at this time anyways (at least paying the additional fee to pay for them).
 
EchoStar Communications Corporation - Current Report

Echo2 total loss...

On July 14, 2008, our EchoStar 2 satellite experienced a substantial failure that appears to have rendered the satellite a total loss. EchoStar 2 had been operating from the 148 degree orbital location primarily as a back-up satellite, but had provided local network channel service to Alaska and six other small markets. All programming and other services previously broadcast from EchoStar 2 were restored to Echostar 1, the primary satellite at the 148 degree location, within several hours after the failure. EchoStar 2, which was launched in September 1996, had a book value of approximately $6.4 million as of June 30, 2008.

Now we are seeing what happens without power. It must have dropped down a little because it is slowly drifting east.

Perigee height: 35770 kmApogee height: 35790 km
Latitude: 145.94
 
Thanks, it was just too weird that there were the "EchoStar II Dead" threads just after EchoStar 11 launched, and then this thread was brought to the top just as EchoStar 11 is about to come online. :eek:
 
Thanks, it was just too weird that there were the "EchoStar II Dead" threads just after EchoStar 11 launched, and then this thread was brought to the top just as EchoStar 11 is about to come online. :eek:


Very good! 11 and II - I need my bifocals to to see the difference.
 
So what will happen to this loose sat, will it just drift east and hit something or will its orbit get lower and lower and burn up?
 

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