Estimate monthly bill for Dish America w/ 722?

[MNHTUG]

Trying to calculate monthly cost for the following package and hardware...

ESTIMATE MONTHLY BILL
Dish America
HD Platinum
722 Receiver

We have the everything pack today and two receivers (722 & 622). If we move to the Dish America pack and drop the 622, what will our monthly bill be?

WHAT WE HAVE TODAY
Everything Pak
722 Receiver
622 Receiver

MONTHLY BILL
$017 HD Duo (2TV) DVR Receiver
$100 America Everything Pak
$010 HD Platinum Pak
$006 Service Plan (15/0)
$006 DVR Service

 

[Mojo Jojo]

Dish America $29.99
HD Platinum $10.00
722 Receiver $0.00 [since it is primary receiver]
DVR Service $6.00
Subtotal $45.99

If you keep the Service Plan, $51.99.

I am not sure why you are dropping from America's "Everything" Pak to Dish America, but I wonder if you like movies without having an expensive package or/and an expensive premium(s). I would like to point out that Encore Movies can be added a la carte for $5.00/month if you did not know; however, it does not include Encore (East) SD or/and HD or/and Encore WAM. What is included is the following SD Encore channels: Encore West, Encore Westerns, Encore Action, Encore Drama, Encore Mystery, Encore Love. There is also Epix 3 a la carte for $7.00/month, but I think that is rather expensive just for one channel.

I should also point out that Dish America does not contain all of the HD channels as America's Top 120. To see the list of channels in Dish America, please view View attachment Focus On DISH Network HD.pdf. [Please remember that the HD feeds of Disney (E), ESPNews, Disney XD, and ABC Family are not available at this time due to the Disney dispute.

I am also not sure if you have HD for Life, but my guess would be that you may lose HD for Life if you go from America's "Everything" Pak to Dish America. If you are interested in HD for Life, but you think that the prices are expensive for the America's Top packages, there are the two HD for Life eligible Dish Latino packages such as Dish Latino Dos [reg. $39.99/mo.] and Dish Latino Max [reg. $52.99/mo.]. Some channel numbers may remain the same while some may change to the 800s or/and 5000s with the Dish Latino packages. However, I just wanted to let you know there are other options. HD Platinum can also be added to the Dish Latino packages.

I think DishLatino Dos is interesting. It does not have everything, but it does have a nice selection of channels (like I said not everything) for the price:
LOCALS:
SD/HD
Varies by location.

LOCAL SPORTS NETWORKS:
SD/HD
Varies by location

ENGLISH CHANNELS:
SD/HD
118/5312 A&E HD
9413 Alma Vision Hispanic Network
890/5xxx AMC HD
219 America Live
262 Angel One
887/5332 Animal Planet HD
873 Boomerang
880/5309 Bravo HD
9403 BYUTV
176/5335 Cartoon Network (East) HD
177 Cartoon Network (West)
265 CCTV-9
267 Christian Television Network
9406 Classic Arts Showcase
200/5314 CNN HD
9407 Colours TV
107/5317 Comedy Central HD
210 C-SPAN
182/5330 Discovery Channel HD
888 The Hub (formerly Discovery Kids)
847 Disney XD
197 Documentary Channel
261 EWTN
110/5311 Food Network HD
877/5306 Fox Soccer Channel HD
9415 Free Speech TV
878/5345 FX HD
229 Gems & Jewelry
226 Gems TV
5350 HDNet
9402 Health & Human Services Television
112/5310 HGTV HD
202/5315 HLN HD
404 HorseRacing TV
84 HSN
882 ION (East)
230 In Country Television
894 Independent Film Channel (IFC)
259 Inspiration Network
227 Jewelry Television
264 KTV
108/5343 Lifetime HD
9410 LinkTV
218 Mercury
160/5321 MTV HD
161 MTV 2
212 NASA
886/5334 National Geographic Channel HD
170/5340 Nick HD (East)
171 Nick West
137 QVC
9405 Pentagon Channel
224 SHOP
228 ShopNBC
874 Si TV
168/5303 Spike TV HD
104 SRi
223 SRN
122/5329 Syfy HD
260 TBN
139/5342 TBS in HD
9393 Three Angels Broadcasting Network
183/5331 TLC HD
138/5353 TNT HD
405 TV Games Network
117 TV Guide Network
9411 University House
9412 University of California TV
105/5328 USA HD
829 Vecindario DISH
889 WE: Women's Entertainment
214/5367 Weather Channel HD


64 SIRIUS MUSIC CHANNELS:
Audio
6001 Sirius XM Hits 1 - Top 40 Hits
6002 The Blend - Lite Pop Hits
6003 Sirius XM Love - Love Songs
6004 '40s on 4 - '40s Pop Hits/Big Band
6005 '50s on 5 - '50s Pop Hits
6006 '60s on 6 - '60s Pop Hits
6007 '70s on 7 - '70s Pop Hits
6008 '80s on 8 - '80s Pop Hits
6009 '90s on 9 - '90s Pop Hits
6010 E Street Radio - Bruce Springsteen 24/7
6011 BBC Radio 1 - UK Pop Hits
6012 The Pulse - Modern Adult Hits
6013 Elvis Radio - Elvis Presley 24/7
6014 Classic Vinyl - '60s & '70s Classic Rock
6015 Classic Rewind - '70s & '80s Classic Rock
6016 Deep Tracks - Deep Classic Rock
6017 Jam On - Jam Bands
6018 The Spectrum - Adult Album Rock
6019 Boneyard - Classic Hard Rock
6020 Octane - New Hard Rock
6021 Alt Nation - New Alternative
6022 First Wave - Classic '80s Alternative
6023 Hair Nation - '80s Hair Bands
6024 Lithium - '90s Alternative/Grunge
6025 Underground Garage - With Little Steven
6026 Sirius XM U - Indie/College/Unsigned
6027 Liquid Metal - Heavy Metal
6028 Faction - Action Sports/Punk/Ska
6029 The Loft - Comfortably Eclectic
6030 The Coffee House - Acoustic Singer-Songwriters
6031 Radio Margaritaville - Escape to Margaritaville
6032 Grateful Dead - Grateful Dead 24/7
6033 The Bridge - Mellow Rock
6035 Sirius XM Chill - Smooth Electronic
6036 BPM - Dance Hits
6038 Area - Trance/Progressive
6039 Backspin - Old Skool Rap
6040 Hip-Hop Nation - The Nation's Hip-Hop Hits
6045 Shade 45 - Eminem's Uncut Hip-Hop
6050 The Heat - Rhythm/R&B Hits
6051 Heart & Soul - Adult R&B Hits
6053 Soul Town - Classic Soul/Motown
6060 The Highway - New Country Hits
6061 Prime Country - '80s & '90s Country Hits
6062 The Roadhouse - '60s & '70s Country
6063 Outlaw Country - Rockin' Country/Americana
6064 Willie's Place - Traditional Country
6065 Bluegrass Junction - Bluegrass
6066 The Message - Christian Pop & Rock
6067 Enlighten - Southern Gospel
6068 Praise - Gospel
6071 Watercolors - Smooth/Contemporary Jazz
6072 Real Jazz - Traditional Jazz
6073 Spa - New Age
6074 B.B. King's Bluesville - Blues
6075 Siriusly Sinatra - Sinatra/American Standards
6076 Escape - Beautiful Music
6077 On Broadway - Show Tunes
6078 Met Opera Radio - Opera/Classical Vocals
6079 SIRIUS XM Pops - Classical Pops
6080 Symphony Hall - Traditional Classical
6081 The Strobe - Disco/Classic Dance
6083 Caliente - Tropical/ Latin Pop
6084 The Joint - Reggae


31+ MUZAK CHANNELS:
Audio
819 Latin Music-Viva Mariachi
820 Latin Music-Fiesta Mexicana
821 Latin Music-Latin Styles
822 Latin Music-Mojito
823 Latin Music-La Frontera
824 Latin Music-La Musica
950 Screen Door CD 1 Alternative Country
951 Rawhide CD 2 Country Classics
952 Nashville USA CD 3 Current Country Hits
953 Jukebox Gold CD 4 Rock 'n Roll Classics
954 Songbook CD 5 1970s Singer/Songwriters
955 Unforgettable CD 6 Adult Favorites
956 Cashmere CD 7 Adult Contemporary/Pop
957 Backpages CD 8 Adult Alternative
958 Strobe CD 9 Electro Pop
959 Rock Show CD 10 Classic Rock
960 Feedback CD 11 Alternative Rock
961 Ink'd CD 12 Power Rock/Metal
962 NuJazz CD 13 Acid Jazz
963 Concrete Beats CD 14 Hip-Hop/Rap
964 Estilos CD 15 Smooth Latin Music
965 Fiesta Mexicana CD 16 Mexican Music
966 Frequency CD 17 Club/Dance
967 Jazz Traditions CD 18 Classic Jazz
968 Impressions CD 19 Contemporary Jazz Instrumental
969 Acoustic Crossroads CD 20 Contemporary Folk
970 Plaza CD 21 Contemporary Instrumental
971 Ensemble CD 22 Classical Ambience
972 Intermezzo CD 23 Light Classical
973 Easy Instrumentals CD 24 Classic Easy Listening Instrumental
974 Swing Kings CD 25 Big Band Swing
975 The Light CD 26 Contemporary Christian
976 Kid Tunes CD 27 Children's Music
977 Aura CD 28 New Age
978 Lucille CD 29 Blues
979 Kingston CD 30 Reggae
980 BYU Radio
981 Hawaiian CD 32 Hawaiian Music


SPANISH CHANNELS:
SD/HD
825 Azteca America
867 Bandamax
848 CBeebies
865 Cinelatino
859 CNN en Espanol
832 Centroamerica TV
845 Discovery en Espanol
884 CCTV-E
853 Discovery Kids en Espanol/Discovery Familia
854 ESPN Deportes
862 De Pelicula
863 De Pelicula Clasico
855 Fox Sports en Espanol
833/833 Galavision HD
850 History en Espanol
843 HITN
838 mun2
834 Pasiones
487 Playboy en Espanol
857 SUR
839 TeleAmazonas
858 TeleFormula
830 TeleFutura (East)
5348 TeleFutura HD (West)
868 Telehit
835 Telemundo (East)
836 Telemundo (West)
844 Television Dominicana
841 TV Colombia
840 TVEI
842 Utilisima
872 Tr3s: MTV Musica y Mas
827/827 Univision HD (East)
828 Univision (West)
846 V-ME

With Dish America, this would be the channel lineup:
Locals SD/HD: vary by location
A&E HD
Cartoon Network HD
CNBC HD
CNN HD
Comedy Central HD
Discovery HD
ESPN HD
ESPN 2 HD
Food Network HD
HD Theater
HDNet
HGTV HD
History HD
Lifetime HD
Palladia
Syfy HD
Spike TV HD
TBS HD
TLC HD
TNT HD
Travel Channel HD
USA HD
The Weather Channel HD
CMT HD

DishLatino Dos seems to have a lot more channels if you have HD for Life (to avoid a $10 HD fee) for $10 more a month if you can afford it. I am not trying to push a package on you, but I worry that you may lose HD for Life if you have it now. Some highlights to this package in my opinion are: Regional Sports Networks (RSNs), AMC, Animal Planet, Disney XD, FX, Independent Film Channel (IFC), We, Si TV, 64 channels of Sirius XM, Boomerang, The Hub (formerly Discovery Kids), Fox Soccer Channel, mun2 (they do have some English subtitles on some shows; I also believe they show some English programming like wrestling and some movies), and National Geographic Channel. Of course, it goes by what you want; so, you may want to compare your options. There may even be more options if you are out of contract and ask. Like I said, I am not really sure of your situation, but it looks like you are going for a lower pack.

I really do hope that this helps you; let us know how it goes.

 

[MNHTUG]

I should have included that we want to keep all of the premium channels. With your breakdown, I can now add the premiums we could keep and have solid numbers to see how much we are saving. I did not realize until looking at my bill to create this post that we did not have "HD for Life". I Remember reading discussion about it here and for some reason thought we would get it automatically. My bad.

Dish America combined with platinum and the four premium channels looks attractive. Planet Green will be the most painful to lose. I don't like losing Speed, FX and TCM but I'm not sure I ever watch them anyway.

I would be interested in seeing a channel list comparison between Dos and America. I'll work on that and share. Will need some help though.

Where does the Sony Movie Channel stand in all of this? What minimum package do we need to get it?

One more kicker, I have yet to change over to 129. Since we are still on 61.5, I do not get a few channels like Epix and DIY (HD) that we really want.

Thanks for the detailed reply. Look forward to more detail related to questions above and your thoughts on saving cash options.

 

[mike123abc]

I'm confused, I just looked at DishNetwork.COM and it says HD for Life is already activated. I thought HD for Life meant we no longer have to pay $10/mo for HD Platinum.

No, just the HD versions of the package you subscribe to... Essentially if you subscribe to AT120, all the AT120 channels that Dish has in HD you get to have in HD without paying an extra fee. They used to charge a $10/month HD fee. This is not to be confused with the $10/month HD platinum fee that includes stations not included in other packages like epix.

 

[MNHTUG]

They waived our $10/mo fee for so many years (we complained) that I forgot they even did it. I get it now.

At minimum we could drop the second receiver and save $17/mo which needs to happen. That leaves $29/mo difference. Going to look at the other America Top packages next to see if it makes sense to move to one of them.

NEW MONTHLY BILL
$29 Dish America
$10 HD Platinum
$06 Service Plan
$06 DVR Service (15/0)
$42 HBO, Starz, Cinemax, Showtime
$93 Total

CURRENT MONTHLY BILL
$017 HD Duo (2TV) DVR Receiver
$100 America Everything Pak
$010 HD Platinum Pak
$006 Service Plan (15/0)
$006 DVR Service
$139 Total

 

[Mojo Jojo]

I should have included that we want to keep all of the premium channels. With your breakdown, I can now add the premiums we could keep and have solid numbers to see how much we are saving. I did not realize until looking at my bill to create this post that we did not have "HD for Life". I Remember reading discussion about it here and for some reason thought we would get it automatically. My bad.

Dish America combined with platinum and the four premium channels looks attractive. Planet Green will be the most painful to lose. I don't like losing Speed, FX and TCM but I'm not sure I ever watch them anyway.

I would be interested in seeing a channel list comparison between Dos and America. I'll work on that and share. Will need some help though.

Where does the Sony Movie Channel stand in all of this? What minimum package do we need to get it?

One more kicker, I have yet to change over to 129. Since we are still on 61.5, I do not get a few channels like Epix and DIY (HD) that we really want.

Thanks for the detailed reply. Look forward to more detail related to questions above and your thoughts on saving cash options.

I figured that you were probably a movie person. If you had HD & Platinum for $10/month before HD for Life, then you should have been grandfathered in HD for Life; however, if you paid HD for $10/month and Platinum for $10/month, then you were not grandfathered into HD for Life. That does seem a bit unfair, but that is what Dish did. HD for Life reduces the $10 HD fee but not the $10 Platinum HD fee. In my opinion, nothing was really given unless one wanted to get rid of Platinum HD to save $10 off one's bill or if one was paying $20 for both the whole time (rather than $10 like those who had HD & Platinum), but I really like the HD Platinum channels.

I have never watched Planet Green. What shows do you watch on there? I may be missing some good programming that I am not aware of. I am not sure if I even watch TCM, Speed, and FX that much but feel like we need them. LOL I may watch TCM for some older movies like To Kill A Mockingbird. We watch Speed for some car shows. We do not watch FX for any of the current series although I know some people do. I may watch a movie on there from time to time, but commercials and editing make it not seem so worthwhile at times.

In terms of comparison for Dos and America, the View attachment Focus On DISH Network HD.pdf attachment is good in comparing HD offerings in the chart between "Dish America" and "HD Dos." However, I have found that Dos has some nice channel offerings if they are channels you are interested in but do not want to pay a higher package price, but it does not have every single channel. For example, Dos has regional sports networks (RSNs), and the other package (America's Top 120 Plus) that has it is $44.99/month. Dos has the following channels that are in America's Top 200 (which is $54.99/month): 64 channels of Sirius XM channels, Si TV, AMC (HD), Animal Planet (HD), Disney XD, FX (HD), Independent Film Channel (IFC), and We. In addition, Dos has the following channels that are in America's Top 250 (which is $64.99/month): Boomerang, The Hub (formerly Discovery Kids), Fox Soccer Channel (HD), and National Geographic (HD). The only thing that some do not like when changing to the DishLatino packages is that the channels are sometimes in different ranges such as the 800s or/and 5000s. However, if you use the guide or/and have a favorites list, then I do not think it will be much of a problem.

Sony Movie Channel was recently added, and it is in HD Platinum. Along with Sony Movie Channel, the following channels are also included in HD Platinum: Epix 1 HD, Epix 2 HD, indieplex HD, retroplex HD, Centric, Shorts HD, Fashion TV HD, Logo, Palladia HD, Mav TV HD, HD Theater, HDNet Movies, Universal HD, Crime & Investigation HD, World Fishing Network (WFN) HD, and MGM HD.

That makes me sad that you cannot watch channels you would like to watch such as Epix and DIY due to the 61.5 to 129 change.

 

[Mojo Jojo]

View attachment DishNetworkComparison.xls
I have created an Excel worksheet (see above) comparing Dish America, Dish Latino Dos, and America's Top 120. I was surprised that Dish took out HD Theater and Palladia from America's Top 120 for those without HD for Life, but I suppose it helps take the confusion away since they were initially added to HD Platinum for those that had HD for Life. I am guessing that they would not take these away from Dish America, and I have not heard anything about Dish America losing those two channels. I hope this helps.

 

[MNHTUG]

Nice!

I put this on Google Docs to share more easily...

DishNetworkComparison