Ethernet Over Coaxial Cable

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I am trying to get some ethernet connections in a couple of rooms of a condominium. I have tried to use ethernet over powerline adapters but have had limited success getting them to work; I suspect that power outlets are on different circuits. I have read that you can buy coaxial cable adapters and run ethernet over the coaxial cable. Can I use these to run ethernet over my Hopper 3 and Joey 3 cables without causing problems? Anyone doing this?
 

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I am trying to get some ethernet connections in a couple of rooms of a condominium. I have tried to use ethernet over powerline adapters but have had limited success getting them to work; I suspect that power outlets are on different circuits. I have read that you can buy coaxial cable adapters and run ethernet over the coaxial cable. Can I use these to run ethernet over my Hopper 3 and Joey 3 cables without causing problems? Anyone doing this?
I feed my living room devices with one of these (2-pack) and an 8 port switch:

Amazon product
I get around 500Mbps throughput over 20-year-old RG59.

You cannot run this over the same wires as your Hopper-to-joey connections though.
 
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You could get a couple of Wireless joeys, this would open up your coax in the 2 rooms which are wired now, then mocha would work. The Hopper 3, has a dedicated signal for the wireless joeys, which would not interfere with WiFi. They also rent at the same price as the wired.
 

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Yes, you can use your existing coax to send ethernet along with the dish signals (it's called MOCA), you have to use the "Hopper Internet Connection" (HIC), (check ebay for cheap prices). Place one HIC at your router and a live coax connection, and then change your Hopper from WiFi to wired, and then the rj45 on the back of the Hopper will be live ethernet to run to a switch to feed your equip. If the equip is not located near the Hopper, connect a second HIC to a live coax connection where you need ethernet. I have three HIC's on my system feeding two ethernet switches in separate rooms, plus a switch connected to the rear of the Hopper. It has worked perfectly for me for over two years. (it confuses the hell out of Dish technicians though...:eeek)
 
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Yes, you can use your existing coax to send ethernet along with the dish signals (it's called MOCA), you have to use the "Hopper Internet Connection" (HIC), (check ebay for cheap prices). Place one HIC at your router and a live coax connection, and then change your Hopper from WiFi to wired, and then the rj45 on the back of the Hopper will be live ethernet to run to a switch to feed your equip. If the equip is not located near the Hopper, connect a second HIC to a live coax connection where you need ethernet. I have three HIC's on my system feeding two ethernet switches in separate rooms, plus a switch connected to the rear of the Hopper. It has worked perfectly for me for over two years. (it confuses the hell out of Dish technicians though...:eeek)
I'd like to see a diagram of that!
 

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HIC Diagram.JPG

1: Supplies ethernet to the Dish Coax.
2: Reset network con Hopper 3 and it will find the HIC for a wired connection.This switch connects my Fire TV, Blue Ray, Onkyo receiver, two internal wired security cameras
3: This is in my Master Bedroom, and the switch connects my Roku, (not so )Smart TV, wireless access point for this side of the house.
4: This is my Guest Room and the switch connects my Fire TV, wireless access point for this side of the house.
 

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Yes, you can use your existing coax to send ethernet along with the dish signals (it's called MOCA), you have to use the "Hopper Internet Connection" (HIC), (check ebay for cheap prices). Place one HIC at your router and a live coax connection, and then change your Hopper from WiFi to wired, and then the rj45 on the back of the Hopper will be live ethernet to run to a switch to feed your equip. If the equip is not located near the Hopper, connect a second HIC to a live coax connection where you need ethernet. I have three HIC's on my system feeding two ethernet switches in separate rooms, plus a switch connected to the rear of the Hopper. It has worked perfectly for me for over two years. (it confuses the hell out of Dish technicians though...:eeek)
This is exactly what I was looking for!
 
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I just bought a Dish HIC but it did not come with a manual or wiring diagram and I can't find any on the internet. Does anyone have one? If not, what does the Mode 1/ Mode 2 switch do? It looks like the HIC is just a pass through for the coaxial so why does it come with a terminator on one side? I have the hub in our bayside closet near the dish and have a cable to the Hopper 3 and a cable to the Joey 3 from there. Does it matter whether the HIC is connected to the Hopper 3 cable or the Joey 3 cable?
 

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I just bought a Dish HIC but it did not come with a manual or wiring diagram and I can't find any on the internet. Does anyone have one? If not, what does the Mode 1/ Mode 2 switch do? It looks like the HIC is just a pass through for the coaxial so why does it come with a terminator on one side? I have the hub in our bayside closet near the dish and have a cable to the Hopper 3 and a cable to the Joey 3 from there. Does it matter whether the HIC is connected to the Hopper 3 cable or the Joey 3 cable?
Definitely needs wired to the client(Joey) side of things. The pass through is for when the hic is in another room with a Joey, and you can wire in an Ethernet cable directly from a router. If you're not using the pass through, you want to keep that other port capped, so you're not leaking moca signal. We also use the hic to move a wap closer to a wireless Joey if necessary.
 

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Exactly, when not using pass-through you want to keep it terminated, such as #1 in my diagram.
I have no idea what the mode switch does, I have never played with it, as it worked in the default position...
 

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I have a similar issue and have tried multiple ways to help myself. I just need someone in the Phoenix area that is pretty good at internet wiring, and components, that can assist me in my dumbassery. I have a wireless extender connected to Ethernet, and still struggle. If I could get that resolved, literally, all of my telecommunication issues would be 100% resolved.

FYI it is because of lead based painted walls from the 60’s on the undercoat.
 

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Thanks, everyone. The HIC rocks! I did have to reset the Hopper 3 a couple of times during the installation, but other than that, everything went smoothly. I did not detect any degradation of picture on either TV and internet speed is much better than wireless. I connected one of the HICs to the Joey cable near the router as osumike recommended and the second one at the Joey 3 connected to a switch. Both were set at Mode 1 (whatever that means). I connected the Hopper 3 to an Ethernet over Power adapter and another one on the opposite side of the room and connected that to my WAP. I now have internet at our pool and on the beach!
 
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Yes, you can use your existing coax to send ethernet along with the dish signals (it's called MOCA), you have to use the "Hopper Internet Connection" (HIC), (check ebay for cheap prices). Place one HIC at your router and a live coax connection, and then change your Hopper from WiFi to wired, and then the rj45 on the back of the Hopper will be live ethernet to run to a switch to feed your equip. If the equip is not located near the Hopper, connect a second HIC to a live coax connection where you need ethernet. I have three HIC's on my system feeding two ethernet switches in separate rooms, plus a switch connected to the rear of the Hopper. It has worked perfectly for me for over two years. (it confuses the hell out of Dish technicians though...:eeek)
It will work. Same as it does for Directv
 

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I don't have dish any more and I'm still using HIC's to extend my network. They work great. Just put an hic where the hopper was in the diagram and use the rj45 port to an Ethernet switch.
 

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And if you feed your Hopper with RJ-45 and use a SNAP...


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