How To Wire New Home For DISH?

[dangerousdave]

Our 2BR 1,900 sq. ft. single floor home is beginning to be built this week, weather dependent. We're consulting with the wiring guy in two days for Ethernet, router and other related items such as the TV.

We are open to other systems however, we believe we want to keep our DISH Hopper & Joey when we move in and I'm aware of some type of DISH mover link but don't know much more about it.

So, my questions are for the Hopper, what type of (co-ax?) wire should we have ran through our house to the anticipated 3 TV's and which side of the house should it terminate on to go up to the dish if we decide on DISH? N,S,E,W?

Do we need (co-ax?) wires to the Joey's possible location also?

I think there will also be some other type of devices, duo-nodes, taps, splitters etc that might be mounted to the side of the house or in the rafters?
Thanks, Dave

 

[Cheddar_Head]

Go with Cat6 Ethernet everywhere, you can use it as distribution instead of MOCA plus it will allow you to avoid Wi-Fi as your internet backbone.

 

[navychop]

Two cat 6 drops each location, minimum.

Two RG-6 drops each location. One for sat, one for OTA. Don’t plan on diplexing- some installers may be out of date and think you can still do that with Dish.

I would run two coax to the Joey location. This will work better than wi-fi. Actually, I’d run to every likely location- both bedrooms, living room, den, maybe kitchen. And if the MBR can be configured in more than one way, you might have drops in two spots. Easier to run now, at minimal cost, than later.

Your Line Of Sight will determine where your coax meets, but probably on the south side.

Consider a gable mount for the dish itself.

The installer will determine what devices you need and their location. If you put all the coax terminations in the attic near each other- you’re done.

 

[Ziptied]

To add to the above recommendations, run everything to a centrally located "Structured Wiring Enclosure" with A.C. power. Include at least 2, 3 ghz RG6 cables to that enclosure from the Dish/OTA location.

 

[Bobby]

To add to the above recommendations, run everything to a centrally located "Structured Wiring Enclosure" with A.C. power. Include at least 2, 3 ghz RG6 cables to that enclosure from the Dish/OTA location.

Absolutely! Everything in my house homeruns to the garage. There is easy access there and it has power.

 

[Pepper]

All of the above recommendations. If I was building new and had freedom to put wire everywhere, that's what I would do.

I would even seriously consider running PVC conduit with strings in it from strategic locations to a central distribution point where the home theatre is going to be, something big enough to pull current HDMI cables and replace it later with whatever they come out with next. Although at some point it would be cheaper to just use the cat-6 and purchase equipment that converts HDMI to and from Ethernet.

 

[Claude Greiner]

Dishretailer.com/newhouse.htm

 

[Claude Greiner]

I would run 6 RG6 from Dish to central point. Minimum 4

Then 4 coax to each wall plate. Minimum 2

2 cat6 to Each wall plate, recommend 4

 

[dangerousdave]

Go with Cat6 Ethernet everywhere, you can use it as distribution instead of MOCA plus it will allow you to avoid Wi-Fi as your internet backbone.

I'm only somewhat technical but does this have anything to do with wiring for DISH Network? We are already wiring using CAT6 Ethernet for Internet etc.

 

[dangerousdave]

Two RG-6 drops each location. One for sat, one for OTA. Don’t plan on diplexing- some installers may be out of date and think you can still do that with Dish. I would run two coax to the Joey location. This will work better than wi-fi.

I'm not very technical so I need further help. Diplexing? That's something I need to address when DISH is installed?
I don't understand what you mean at all when you mention "This will work better than wi-fi." concerning co-ax cables to Joey's.
Thanks very much for some really good advice.

 

[Voyager6]

I'm not very technical so I need further help. Diplexing? That's something I need to address when DISH is installed?
I don't understand what you mean at all when you mention "This will work better than wi-fi." concerning co-ax cables to Joey's.

Diplexing is when you try to send an OTA TV signal down the same wire as a sat signal. Dish now sends MOCA signals down that wire which would be interfered with by the OTA signal. So no more diplexing with Hopper equipment. As for using WI-Fi, a direct connection (coax) for a Joey usually works better than Wi-Fi. Many variables can affect the Wi-Fi signal which you won't have with coax.

 

[Voyager6]

Here is an example of a centralized wiring area. This is very complex but it will give you the idea. You can also get a cabinet to put the wiring into.
Wiring diagram for 2 Hopper 3 and 6 Joey

 

[charlesrshell]

Here is an example of a centralized wiring area. This is very complex but it will give you the idea. You can also get a cabinet to put the wiring into.
Wiring diagram for 2 Hopper 3 and 6 Joey

LOL. So you think my redneck head end board is very complex! It was really complex when I had four HWSs, two Dual Nodes, and two DPP44 switches.

 

[HipKat]

I think 4 coax lines to each possible location is over kill, myself, but I'd run 2 for sure and have multiple locations in each room, including the kitchen (over the 'fridge and at a spot on the counter). I'd have all the coax, Ethernet and phone) lines run to a media box in the basement (contractor will know what that is) with 4 lines running from the media box, outside to a home run point. 1 for cable and 3 for Dish to get to the Media box

 

[charlesrshell]

I have four coax (119, 110, 129, & 118.7) from my DISH 1000+ to my DPH42 switch on the head end board. At three TV locations I have four coax (Satellite, OTA, Modulator In, Modulator Out) that go to the head end board. Modulator coax are needed to have the capability to sync recordings and TV to all TVs in my home thru a home distribution splitter.

 

[ncted]

See if Dish Mover will give you some equipment upgrades. I'd opt for the latest Hopper3 and Joey 3.0 or 4k if you can get them.

 

[navychop]

It’s important that the coax be run in a star configuration. Some old contractors might think cable and run it like old phone interior wiring.

 

[Bobby]

It’s important that the coax be run in a star configuration. Some old contractors might think cable and run it like old phone interior wiring.

Yes, the star configuration that navy refers to is the home run concept. Each coax/s goes from a room to a central location. If I remember correctly navy's central location is in his attic. Mine is in my garage. It can literally be anywhere even a closet. You must have easy access to it though. You find that out more often than you might expect.

 

[Claude Greiner]

Home run everything.

Minimum 2 coax, but the more cat6 the better.

It’s better to run let’s say 6 home runs to your main Tv then to install a switch

 

[navychop]

QFT:
It’s better to run let’s say 6 home runs to your main Tv then to install a switch

All my coax, OTA and satellite, runs to a spot in the attic.

All my Ethernet runs to a spot under the stairs, in my laundry room. I have almost filled my 24 ports.