Lifetime Gets Backup in EchoStar Spat

[gdarwin]

Radio ads

Now they are running ads on WLUE-FM... A winny female says 'Dish customers, did you know that Lifetime is no longer being carried..." or something to that effect. Then they give out the number to Insight cable. No $200.00 deal mentioned.

 

[dodge]

lets see
1. Cable- We can't get cable in the country
2. Directtv- don't know anyone who has it.
3 . C band w/4dtv doesn't exist in preble county ohio.
i guess the only way to watch the nanny and the golden girls is to spend alot of money on dvds.

Just because you dont now anyone with directv does not mean you!!!! Cant get it!!!!

Anyone in the the USA and Canada can get C band w/4dtv thisis the Big Dish stuff, like back in the olden days!!!

 

[cablewithaview]

lets see
1. Cable- We can't get cable in the country
2. Directtv- don't know anyone who has it.
3 . C band w/4dtv doesn't exist in preble county ohio.
i guess the only way to watch the nanny and the golden girls is to spend alot of money on dvds.

C BAND is very much alive and is available anywhere, even Preble County, Ohio. Who ever told you that lied to you. Check out NPS, or SRL even get a ku set up and mpeg II FTA receiver and pick up a hell of a lot more then you ever will with the pizza pan crap. check out: http://mechtech.satforums.com/ for some equipment, etc..

 

[moreHDplease]

I personally could care less about the dropping of Lifetime Network, but charlie saying there demands are outragous and calling ESPN the most greedy network is absurd. This is coming from a guy who just droppped full HD for HD lite, is increasing his rates without giving the option to drop the contract, is not providing a full swap for existing HD equipment purchased (offering owned trade-in for new leased box for a cost). I don't see D* or cable outfitters whining about the limetime rates. Lets also not forget that some of us sports fans can rarley see hockey games because of another decision to "benefit" us as consumers was made to drop OLN. Is charley serious. I justed dropped my E* subscription at $150 a month to get as many channels, real HD, no crazy equipment trade ins, and High Speed Internet for $20 less a month. On top of this my wife is happy because she gets lifetime back, has We, Encore Love, and Oxygen. Now I just need to get my remote back and I'll be happy

 

[CPanther95]

D* won't whine about Lifetime rates because News Corp is about to jack up the price of Fox News to about $1.00 - $1.15 per sub/ per month and they will be leveraging it and F/X to force the same kind of bundling Lifetime is trying to accomplish.

 

[Stargazer]

The cable and satellite companies should be helping each other fight these channels instead of the other way around.

 

[GeorgeLV]

The cable and satellite companies should be helping each other fight these channels instead of the other way around.

The big cable companies (Comcast, Time Warner, Cox) and DirecTV (well, Fox) are also programmers so they don't have as much incentive to lower programming costs.

 

[Frostwolf]

Price of gas compared

I don't think it's 4 more cents every month, your bill would be 4 cents higher for the first year, then the 2nd increase kicks in...

Its listed on Lifetimetv.com

"we sought a very modest increase of 4 cents per month per customer, with further increases — still totaling far less than 76% — spread over several years."

If you applied this for gas in three years we will be paying $5.48 for gas if you started at $2.64. Umm, come to think of it, that may be true. I regress,

If you just add .04 cents * 12 million customers thats $480,000 a month Not including what they already charge. So as written at lifetime it would be $1.44 a month increase in 36 months again starting a $0.00 now. And we complain about gas prices. Anyways, if what lifetime said is true then My math would be $17,280,000.00 (thats 1.44*12000000 customers in 36 months) Now thats assuming Dish doesn't get a single new customer in the next 3 years.

Now the numbers seem outragous, But the numbers have been posted on lifetimetv for a week now. So are they true? The error should have been seen by now, they know the real numbers. And 76% doesn't seem that far off. I hate this kind of math but If $34 million is 76% what is the real price per month now?
a = 17.28 million

b = 76/100;

c = a/b

Then c= $22736842 - a = $5456842

Oh forget it, I hate math, It's a friggin big number. So Lifetime wants a friggin big amount of $ to go back.

Can anyone smarter than me figure out the real numbers. Including Further Costs, and whats average amount of customers Dish is adding a month anyways? I remember 6 million like 6 years ago? ( or was I dreaming)

Maybe $5.48 for gas isn't so bad.

"It's all going to end in tears I just know it." Marvin

 

[chaddux]

Its listed on Lifetimetv.com

"we sought a very modest increase of 4 cents per month per customer, with further increases — still totaling far less than 76% — spread over several years."

If you applied this for gas in three years we will be paying $5.48 for gas if you started at $2.64. Umm, come to think of it, that may be true. I regress,

If you just add .04 cents * 12 million customers thats $480,000 a month Not including what they already charge. So as written at lifetime it would be $2.84 a month increase in 36 months again starting a $0.00 now. And we complain about gas prices. Anyways, if what lifetime said is true then My math would be $34,080,000.00 (thats 2.84*12000000 customers in 36 months) Now thats assuming Dish doesn't get a single new customer in the next 3 years.

Now the numbers seem outragous, But the numbers have been posted on lifetimetv for a week now. So are they true? The error should have been seen by now, they know the real numbers. And 76% doesn't seem that far off. I hate this kind of math but If $34 million is 76% what is the real price per month now?
a = 34.08 million

b = 76/100;

c = a/b

Then c= $44842105.26 - a = $10762105.26

Oh forget it, I hate math, It's a friggin big number. So Lifetime wants a friggin big amount of $ to go back.

Can anyone smarter than me figure out the real numbers. Including Further Costs, and whats average amount of customers Dish is adding a month anyways? I remember 6 million like 6 years ago? ( or was I dreaming)

Maybe $5.48 for gas isn't so bad.

"It's all going to end in tears I just know it." Marvin

I don't understand that at all. Lifetime said the increase was $2.84/month in 36 months?

 

[phonebill]

I had a lady cancel service on New Years eve. It seems that she was watching a movie and they turned Lifetime off in the middle of the movie.
I sold her a Direct TV the next business day.

 

[GeorgeLV]

A lot of the math seems to think Lifetime wants to increase costs per month like this:

base + .04, base + .08, base + .12, base + .16, base + .20, base + .24 which has no basis in any carriage contract I've ever seen.

Your math should be base + .04, base + .04, base + .04, etc for 12 months, then the next increase for another 12 months, etc.

 

[Frostwolf]

I don't understand that at all. Lifetime said the increase was $2.84/month in 36 months?

On the Charlie chat they said it was over a period of 3 years or 36 months, so at 4 cents increase per month for 3 years not including further increase. Is 1.44/month I'm correcting my mistake

See I Hate Math

 

[chaddux]

On the Charlie chat they said it was over a period of 3 years or 36 months, so at 4 cents increase per month for 3 years not including further increase. Is 1.44/month I'm correcting my mistake
See I Hate Math

It's not an increase of $.04 each and every month for 36 months as in each month they add another $.04. The monthly rate goes up $.04. If you're paying $.50 now, the monthly rate would then be $.54. It wouldn't be $.54, $.58, $.62, etc.

 

[Frostwolf]

It's not an increase of $.04 each and every month for 36 months as in each month they add another $.04. The monthly rate goes up $.04. If you're paying $.50 now, the monthly rate would then be $.54. It wouldn't be $.54, $.58, $.62, etc.

Boy You guys are fast!

"increase of 4 cents per month per customer" The way I read it is increase of .04 per month per customer. If this was in our lease aggreements at work thats what the payment would be, increase per month.

I'd like to see Lifetime correct the wording they choose and clarify it.

Otherwords Its still $480,000 a month minimum

 

[chaddux]

Boy You guys are fast!
"increase of 4 cents per month per customer" The way I read it is increase of .04 per month per customer. If this was in our lease aggreements at work thats what the payment would be, increase per month.
I'd like to see Lifetime correct the wording they choose and clarify it.
Otherwords Its still $480,000 a month minimum

The wording is clear. You are just interpreting it wrong. For instance, the DISH programming increase Feb 1 is an increase of "$3/month." That doesn't meant it increases $3 EVERY month. It increases once and the new monthly rate is $3 higher until they raise it again. What Lifetime meant was that there would be multiple increases over a 36-month period like (example numbers only):

Base Rate: .50
Increase: .04
Months 1-12: Monthly rate is .54
Increase after month 12: .05
Months 13-24: Monthly rate is .59
Increase after month 24: .03
Months 25-36: Monthly rate is .62

There are multiple increases but not EVERY month. I believe that's what they meant.

 

[kb7oeb]

Now they are running ads on WLUE-FM... A winny female says 'Dish customers, did you know that Lifetime is no longer being carried..." or something to that effect. Then they give out the number to Insight cable. No $200.00 deal mentioned.

Thats funny, how important can a channel be to someone if they hadn't noticed it missing for two weeks now.

 

[Frostwolf]

The wording is clear. You are just interpreting it wrong. For instance, the DISH programming increase Feb 1 is an increase of "$3/month." That doesn't meant it increases $3 EVERY month. It increases once and the new monthly rate is $3 higher until they raise it again. What Lifetime meant was that there would be multiple increases over a 36-month period like (example numbers only):
Base Rate: .50
Increase: .04
Months 1-12: Monthly rate is .54
Increase after month 12: .05
Months 13-24: Monthly rate is .59
Increase after month 24: .03
Months 25-36: Monthly rate is .62
There are multiple increases but not EVERY month. I believe that's what they meant.

Thats a more reasonable math, but .04 *1200000= $480,000 Now if you figure in 1 million new customers a year then the math would look like this

(1 million broken evenly over 12 months is 83,333.33 month)

.04/yr #customers each month
$0.04 12000000 83333.33 $480,000.00
$0.04 12083333.33 83333.33 $483,333.33
$0.04 12166666.66 83333.33 $486,666.67
$0.04 12249999.99 83333.33 $490,000.00
$0.04 12333333.32 83333.33 $493,333.33
$0.04 12416666.65 83333.33 $496,666.67
$0.04 12499999.98 83333.33 $500,000.00
$0.04 12583333.31 83333.33 $503,333.33
$0.04 12666666.64 83333.33 $506,666.67
$0.04 12749999.97 83333.33 $510,000.00
$0.04 12833333.3 83333.33 $513,333.33
$0.04 12916666.63 83333.33 $516,666.67
$0.08 12999999.96 83333.33 $1,040,000.00
$0.08 13083333.29 83333.33 $1,046,666.66
$0.08 13166666.62 83333.33 $1,053,333.33
$0.08 13249999.95 83333.33 $1,060,000.00
$0.08 13333333.28 83333.33 $1,066,666.66
$0.08 13416666.61 83333.33 $1,073,333.33
$0.08 13499999.94 83333.33 $1,080,000.00
$0.08 13583333.27 83333.33 $1,086,666.66
$0.08 13666666.6 83333.33 $1,093,333.33
$0.08 13749999.93 83333.33 $1,099,999.99
$0.08 13833333.26 83333.33 $1,106,666.66
$0.08 13916666.59 83333.33 $1,113,333.33
$0.12 13999999.92 83333.33 $1,679,999.99
$0.12 14083333.25 83333.33 $1,689,999.99
$0.12 14166666.58 83333.33 $1,699,999.99
$0.12 14249999.91 83333.33 $1,709,999.99
$0.12 14333333.24 83333.33 $1,719,999.99
$0.12 14416666.57 83333.33 $1,729,999.99
$0.12 14499999.9 83333.33 $1,739,999.99
$0.12 14583333.23 83333.33 $1,749,999.99
$0.12 14666666.56 83333.33 $1,759,999.99
$0.12 14749999.89 83333.33 $1,769,999.99
$0.12 14833333.22 83333.33 $1,779,999.99
$0.12 14916666.55 83333.33 $1,789,999.99

Ok, Is this right? Any Albert Einstiens around? Wait I heard he flunked math. (it looked better when I originall posted it, spaced better that is)

 

[Bulldog]

A coalition of women's advocacy groups has banded together to publicly demand for the return of the Lifetime network to EchoStar's DISH Network.

Before you know it they will be burning their Bras:devil: :up

 

[Stargazer]

So basically Lifetime is trying to nearly double what they getting now over a three year period? I would hate to see what they would want after that.

 

[Frostwolf]

So basically Lifetime is trying to nearly double what they getting now over a three year period? I would hate to see what they would want after that.

Another question is this price for both channels or each of the two channels? Just two right.

My wife and I could care less about lifetime anyways.