MLB 2011 Season
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His WHIP is actually 0.88 not 1.85. That's walks plus hits per inning pitched and he is averaging less than one.
Oh Sh*t, your right, I messed up on the number all the way around.
I knew it was damn good.
Buster Olney: "Verlander has been involved with 803 plate appearances this season; most for any position player is about 600. Still no MVP consideration?"
HD MM said:
I think it will just come down to if the Tigers make the playoffs. If he does, I think he wins it. If they don't, it's a crap shoot.
Personally, I would like Granderson to win it.
Who's saying Verlander is not being considered?? There's debate over whether or not he should win, but I haven't read/heard anything that says he shouldn't be under consideration....
The only problem I have with Granderson winning it is he's only hitting .277 ....
Jimbo said:
But if you would have said he would have over 35 homers and over 100 RBIs with well over 30 games left and lead the team in those two categories.... they would have laughed at you and said you were on crack.
Truth be told, that is a respectable batting average.....which is about his career average(.270).
However, the 35 HR's is NOT his typical output, nor is the RBI number.
However, when he was in Detroit they had him leading off and NOT hitting in a RBI or HR position.
That said, he usually K's as much as the Tigers Jackson is this year.
Moving from Comerica to yankees bandbox has undoubtedly helped.
Jimbo said:
You still have to push the guys in ahead of you. What has really helped is considering his history, who would you rather face, Granderson or Cano or A-Rod or Teixiera...so he is seeing alot of pitches. Something the pitchers did not have to do when he played in Detroit. And....you still gotta hit....and he has in big spots. Getting over 100 in the #2 spot ain't easy. Being seen by the biggest media market in the world helps too.
He will get alot of votes....at least I think.
He had people to knock him in in Detroit as well.
Cabrera, Ordonez (bad year this year and busted ankle 2nd half last), however ...
Personally, I much preferred him hitting line drives doubles and triples, in the last year in Detroit he decided that wasn't good enough for him and tried hitting HR's ... probably figured it would help his cause while having over 120K's each year .... as a leadoff guy his K's Killed him.
I think him getting out of Detroit was alot of his own doing, though you won't hear him say that.
Thats said, I like him, he was Great defensively in Detroit and a much better player for them his first 3-4 year than his last few when he no longer cared about his avg.
He should be a .320 hitter, but that obviously wasn't good enough for him....
jmo of what happened.
Harmon Killebrew, a career .256 hitter, won the MVP award in 1969 while batting .276, finished second in 1967 with a batting average of .269, placed third in 1962, when he hit only .243 and again in 1970 when he hit .271 and finished fourth in 1963 when he hit .258.
Reggie Jackson was a career .262 hitter but made the Hall of Fame on the first ballot.
Reggie Jackson was a career .262 hitter but made the Hall of Fame on the first ballot.
Batting average is an overrated stat.
I am not a believer in that a high average is the end-all, be-all of a good hitter. It can sometimes be inflated if a guy is a dinky singles hitter with no power.
I am not a believer in that a high average is the end-all, be-all of a good hitter. It can sometimes be inflated if a guy is a dinky singles hitter with no power.
Why ?
The guy that gets the singles are the ones that get on base, can't score if you can't hit.
The HR guy that hit .250 also K's 1 or twice a game.
I'll take a single or double over a .250 hitting K machine that might hit one out occasionally .
A truer stat would be the On Base %
Really?? Which player is the better hitter?
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BA HR RBI OBP
.244 35 99 .342
.348 23 103 .409- Status
