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Discussion in 'DISH Network Support Forum' started by redelephants, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. redelephants

    redelephants Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro

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    I am building a new house and preparing a plan for my structured cabling cabinet(s). I will be installing a television in our great room above the fireplace and will not have any built-ins next to it to conceal the receiver. What is the effective range of the RF remote on the HWS? Also, do you have any suggestions on HDMI baluns or pre-wiring? My plan is to provide 2 quad RG6 and 2 CAT 6 at each room. I'm also planning to bring them into a main structured cabling cabinet (in garage). At that point, I'm going to install 2" conduit to the exterior of the home to bring in the coax from the dish and for future needs. Lastly, I'm going to put an additional cabinet in the pantry for all of my network/video equipment.
     
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    I suspect quad shielding is unnecessary and will just be harder and more expensive to work with.

    Just curious- are you going to put in wiring for land line telephone service?


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    redelephants Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro

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    Thanks for your suggestion. I'm on the fence about it, I currently do not have a POTS line, but use MagicJack so I could benefit from providing jacks, but don't know if the extra cost of cabling is worth it.
     
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    Agree Quad 6 is not needed unless you absolutely need it. Great you are putting 2 cat and RG connections at each location. My RF Hopper remote worked quite well thru walls. Cant tell you a distance. Do you really need a fireplace in Florida? Most people up here in Pa. barely use them. A TV mounted high may give you neck aches. Eye level when seated is best. I still use a landline phone. Prices are really cheap for that service nowadays and they are much clearer than cell phones.
     
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    I know at one time, at least in some places, all homes had to be built with POTS wiring. I doubt that’s still a requirement, unless it’s some sort of safety thing.


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    I’d wire for POTS. Wire is cheap when the walls are open. Daisy chain the whole thing and it just isn’t a big deal.
     
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    Are you going to use both Cat 6 in each room? One of them can be used for POTS if need be.
     
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    What is POTS?
     
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    redelephants Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro

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    Thanks, everyone. Yes, I’m planning on two home runs of Cat6 in each room. To that point, it wouldn’t hurt to add another Cat6 in series to add POTS capability.


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    POTS are what my wife cooks in. :)
     
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    Sounds good by what you described.

    Run some empty conduit for future proofing to key locations to run stuff later.

    As far as the remote range, run some cat5 for IR repeaters Incase the remote doesn’t work
     
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    Your wife cooks? Damn!
     
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    If you want a do right, all day woman, you got to be a do right, all night man.

     
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    ^ Yep. I think it also is keeping our college graduate son from moving out.
     
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    I did all the A/V wiring in our house when we had it built (in 2002). What I wish I would have done...

    * Multiple Cat6 cable to each location. Yes, devices can use wifi, but hardwire is going to be faster and more reliable.
    * Multiple drops of everything (RG6, Cat6, speaker(?)) on multiple walls of each room. This gives you options if you want to rearrange the room, especially bedrooms.
    * Better labeling of cables.
     
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    One other thought during construction. Think about eave placement on each corner with front porch and garage coverage of house exterior for security cameras. Most surveillance systems offer a Network Video Recorder with built in POE (power over ethernet). You may not need cameras now, but ten years from now ????????
     
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    redelephants Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro

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    That’s great advice, so many things to consider!


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    Like space for fiber optic if or when it is available

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    It’s going to be a while before we see fiber in homes until we have an easier way to splice it.
     
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