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Hi Mikelib,

I'm using a Sonicview Elite

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Hi Lak7,

According to dishpointer.com my True South (zip 01852) coincides with AMC6. I'm attaching a picture of the settings on the receiver side.

I was trying to find information about testing an LNB (with a multitester or something like that), but all I have seen is "put it on the receiver to see if it works" or "buy an LNB tester" which at this point is out of the question. Any suggestions on that area would help,

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Tanks Lak7. I added 12143 V 2573 and moved the dish around slowly. I did a blind scan too and nothing
 
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Things to check...
Have receiver drive Motor to "Zero", using "Go to 0" if possible
You have the Motor Lat Scale (not "Elevation") set to your Lat using the correct "indicator" usually not the Bolt.
Dish is set to recommended Elevation for use with your Brand Motor.
Take a Compass and wooden broom handle, lay broom handle on flat ground and align to True South Azimuth. That serves as a guide of where to point the Dish.

Can you post Pics of the Dish & Motor settings?
 
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Hi Lak7,
I was trying to find information about testing an LNB (with a multitester or something like that)
if you have a multi-meter with a setting to check diodes, you can do a rough check of the lnb.
when hooking the positive terminal of the meter to the center conductor and the negative to the outside conductor it should read somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.5v
when hooking the neg to the center and the pos to the outside it should read somewhere around 1.8v
every ku lnb that i have seen that was completely dead read either shorted both ways or open both ways using a diode check
while im on the subject, c-band lnbs may read different, i have not had enough experience with them to know for sure.
it is possible that other things can go wrong with them that this test will not check
(frequency drift, oscillation, and moisture getting inside to name a few)
but in 9 years, i have never seen a ku lnb that passed this test not at least work a little bit.
if it reads shorted both ways or open both ways with a diode check, you know its bad.
hope this helps,
Denny
 
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Thanks everybody. I'm attaching now some pictures of the setup.

I tried 12143 V 2573 with some adjustments to the dish as well but nothing.

I'll try to check the LNB now with the tester.

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From what I see.....
Declination is not the same as Dish Elevation.
You are about due East of me, I'm at Lat 41.6
You Dish Elevation should be about 23
Depending on the Motor, Dish Elevation is "Motor Bend" minus Declination
For me, it's Motor Bend = 30 minus Declination 6.5
30 - 6.5 = 23.5 Dish elevation

EDIT: You Dish Elevation should be about 23, you are at 66
 
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Thanks Gary. I changed the Declination angle to 40-Declination (that's what the manual for this motor showed, now is 34 roughly), did some minor adjustments on the perimeter but still no quality (My elevation is still at 47). I will check the LNB now.

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I changed the Declination angle to 40-Declination
That is not the Declination angle, it's the Dish Elevation angle
I would try more towards 23
Motor Elevation is set according to the Motors Manual

What is you exact Lat and Long?
 
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Hi Gary,

I checked in a different website and it seems that the marks on the side (where the metal triangle is) are used to set the Dish angle based on the declination. In my case the Declination angle is 6.6 and the marks on the side 1 2 3 4 5 are 10 - 20 - 30 - 40 - 50. For this motor, SG9120, the manual says the Dish angle should be set up to 40-Declination, which is roughly 33 (or 3.3 following the marks on the dish).

Are you saying this is not the way to set it up (WS9036 comes with no instructions regarding this, so here I'm kind of on my own)?

Thanks!
 
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Well, it seems that the LNB is not bad (I found no shorts and there was different readings from pos-center to neg-side and vice versa).

Sadly, I'm going to start removing everything (including the pole that I had to put in the backyard).

I would like to thank all of you for your patience and guidance, but it just wasn't meant to be. It was too much time invested with no results so my wife has demanded that I cut my loses.

Thanks you for all the help!
 
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I would like to thank all of you for your patience and guidance, but it just wasn't meant to be. It was too much time invested with no results so my wife has demanded that I cut my loses
I'd try without the motor, just mount the Dish to the Pole, reset the Dish Elevation, and try again.

Also, since you have DirecTV LNBs available, you can mount one one your Dish and locate the Dish Net Sat at 61.5. Then switch back to the other LNB, reset Elevation and sloooowly pan the Dish west.
 
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Hi Lak7,

Thanks for the advice, but I already tried that yesterday afternoon (after testing the LNB). I spent most of the afternoon manually scanning basically all the satellites available to me (without the motor on the pole) with help of dishpointer.com (I set up the skew by hand).
No quality whatsoever, tried several different cables from the LNB to the receiver and nothing.

Thank you anyway for the advice!
 
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If you have a Signal Reading, the wiring should be good.
1 day is not very long for a first time setup.
You tried to fine the Dish Net Sat at 61.5 west? Did you remember to set the proper LNB L.O.?
 
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