RabbitEars Search Map Enters Public Beta

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  1. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    I'm pleased to announce the release of the RabbitEars Search Map as a public beta.

    RabbitEars.Info

    This tool is designed to replace TVFool which, although I love it, has gone very out of date to the point that it's not really useful anymore to people trying to help with antenna issues.

    Please read more about it on the RabbitEars Blog.

    RabbitEars Search Map Enters Public Beta - RabbitEars Blog

    Feel free to provide comments, opinions, feedback, and bug reports.

    - Trip
     
  2. Scott Greczkowski

    Scott Greczkowski Scanning the Skies! Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Works GREAT! And I love the feature that you can see what signals you will get after the repack!

    Great job!
     
  3. NYDutch

    NYDutch SatelliteGuys Pro Pub Member / Supporter

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    Really nice work, Trip! Like Scott, I love the repack feature as well!
     
  4. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    I've made a slight change to the calculation code. If a station is mechanically tilted and has a distorted pattern filed in LMS, and I happen to have the untilted pattern noted on RabbitEars, I'm now using the untilted antenna to calculate the signal strength rather than the tilted antenna. This change should make some of the Los Angeles area stations, as an example, more realistic. KPXN in particular gets a big boost out of it, more closely reflecting their actual signal level.

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    mrc54 SatelliteGuys Guru

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    Many flaws in Indianapolis repack post.
     
  6. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Would you care to provide any details?

    - Trip
     
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    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

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    Are you sure?

    Some stations may move sooner, but I doubt there are "many flaws".
     
  8. mrc54

    mrc54 SatelliteGuys Guru

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    According to Rabbitears, Wish-tv's move to 26 is pending. Wudz-Ld move to 6 is not listed. The two that moved to channel sharing, are not listed, Wndy-tv and WCLG-Tv.
     
  9. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Is it not? What am I missing here?

    Fixed; it'll be in the Search Map tomorrow morning. I had overlooked it and hadn't flagged that as a post-repack record. (When managing thousands of records by hand, some will inevitably slip through the cracks.)

    The channel sharing records have been giving me a lot of problems and most of them are missing from the post-repack listing. I'm considering a few solutions, including removing the channel sharing guest stations entirely, since it's not like they actually have their own signals anyway.

    I wouldn't characterize it as "many flaws" personally.

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    mrc54 SatelliteGuys Guru

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    Don't get me wrong, I like the new public Beta. Wish may go to 26, but has not been granted that right. The two channel sharing still show as there original channel numbers in a scan. I have always tried to help update changes in the two different areas I receive in. When I pulled up my area and saw 3 channels missing and that had one not been granted, I saw several flaws.
     
  11. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Unless there's an obvious reason for it not to be granted, I generally mark a newly-filed application as "post-repack" since most grantable applications are granted, even if it takes a while to move through the process. So I've marked WISH's DRT that way, even though it remains ungranted, as you point out.

    I'm going to work on something better for the channel sharing guest stations, but they're definitely an outstanding issue right now. The problem is that the FCC database only contains a current licensed record for each one. Only when the channel sharing host station files a new license to cover and it is granted by the FCC does the record attached to the channel sharing guest station change, and then to the new shared license. That means that any STAs or auxiliaries or even CPs for new facilities aren't easily linked to the channel sharing guest station. It's a tough problem to solve.

    Please don't take my previous reactions the wrong way. I do like to be kept updated, but the entire text of your initial message was "Many flaws in Indianapolis repack post." It provided no context, no clues as to what you were seeing, and the word "many," in my mind at least, is generally more than four items. You can understand how I might not have taken it to be a positive message.

    - Trip
     
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    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

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    That sounds like an awful lot of hand work. I figured buddying up was going to be database trouble whether because of the repack or because of lighthousing for Next Gen TV.
     
  13. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Alright, with a few exceptions where I'm still working out wrinkles in the data, the Canadian stations are now present in the Search Map, the TV Query, and are now coming from the LMS tables, not the CDBS tables, in the main listings.

    As far as said wrinkles go, I am aware of the absence of CHWI-60 on its new channel and CJPC entirely, and the bad contours on CKWS and CBUT. All are on my to-do list today. If you spot anything else missing or in error for the Canadian data, let me know, but know that I've not touched every record yet.

    - Trip
     
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    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Okay, a few things.

    1) Canadian stations should be mostly sorted out at this point. CJPC is still missing, but CHWI-60 is now in place. Some of the rural translators still need to be touched and I need to clean up a few of the full-power stations in places.

    2) I've attempted a fix for the channel sharing stations. The code is now much neater and the channel sharing stations should appear correctly. Aesthetically... I don't really like it, but I'm not sure what else I would do with it, exactly. Opinions GREATLY appreciated.

    - Trip
     
  15. zippyfrog

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    This looks great! Here in Chicago, the post repack page now shows the channel sharing. One thing I see missing though is channel 48-1 disappeared on the post repack page. Not sure if that was due to your code change, or if it is going off air after the repack. But I see it is in phase 6 on the current station list then is gone on the post repack.
     
  16. Trip

    Trip Topic Starter RabbitEars Webmaster Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    Not related to the change; mistake in the database. Should be in tomorrow's studies.

    - Trip
     
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    Thanks for looking into that. It shows up now!
     

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