Not exactly. Hybrid equipment has a DPP retro compatibility mode, I have gone as far back as connecting a 322 to a Hybrid LNBF without issue. The LNBF does have limitations, like disabling port 2 in the presence of a Hybrid receiver, but you can run dual 722’s or even dual Hopper1/2’s on one if you really needed to.
PM me and I will help you out. I had to do this exact thing for my configuration.
Technically sure they will work but it's not designed for it and can cause issues down the road. (I said can not will, it may not). But it's always best to use what it was designed to be used with.
Unless it’s a power draw issue (which I guess is entirely posible especially with how weird slimlines can be), I don’t see any issues as DPP tech is interoperable with DPX (I’ll elaborate below).
Oh yeah, for sure. If I worked for Dish or any of their contractors (with the current Dish as it is, I probably wouldn’t) I would stick to what’s in the book more then anything as a CYA, but a little bit of “this will work in a pinch” knowledge never hurts.
And Duo’s/Wally, even though they would be fine with DPP. On the flip side you can channel stack them which is neat.
Now back to DPX. DPX is just a DPP signal with a third tuner stacked on top, and is what the Hopper1/2 requires for its three tuners. In the past a Node would perform the stacking of the third tuner with DPP setups, and now Hybrid LNBs have this functionality integrated from the get go. When you connect a DPP (dual tuner) receiver to a DPX line, or a DP (solo tuner) receiver to a DPP/DPX line, the receiver simply ignores the unnecessary tuners on the upper end of the frequency spectrum and uses what it needs on the lower end. This has been the case since the way early days of the DPP33/44 being capable of feeding a DP111 (heh remember that piece of garbage?). What I’m getting at in conclusion is that the underlying technology (DPX) is not only technically compatible, but quite literally by design made to be interoperable with DP/DPP as well. So:
As somewhat related to this issue, I currently have a DPP LNB driving a Hybrid DPU42 switch that then drives a Hopper3 and VIP receiver. Has been working just fine. But it looks like that DPP LNB may be getting sick and could need replacing (it’s very old).
This will work, but you would be in the previously mentioned “works but not by design” territory. If you are feeling adventurous or just want something temporary you can try and see if it holds up, but if you don’t want to risk possibly damaging your equipment you’re better off getting a new DPP (good luck finding one).
That’s what I thought, thanks. And Solid Signal still sells DPP LNBs.
Can almost guarantee they are refurbs. You never know though.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head, it’s unknowns. If you search the forum you will find some people it worked for, and I even tried it out myself out of curiosity and the switch identified the LNB without an issue. The problem is that we don’t have any factual evidence of the setup being reliable in the long run. In my case I had to go back to a DPP because a Hybrid LNB can only feed two satellites and back then 129 was still necessary. I could theorize all day about what may or may not happen but at the end of the day it would all be theory until you have actual long term testing in the field. To make matters worst, Dish being a national service makes the amount of variables to consider almost impossible to keep up with.
Oh yes, I assume almost all Dish equipment on Solid Signal is refurbs or overstock. It’s all we have to work with these days.
A good point I didn’t explicitly state. I wouldn’t even consider this option if it weren’t for the fact that 129 is now decommissioned and we now only need two satellites for the WA.
). So I will likely try this out and consider myself a guinea pig for everyone else.Yep, same as with the LNB. There wouldn’t be any reason to do so unless you intended to have a mixed Hopper3/Hopper1 or Hopper3/Hopper2 setup, as a Hybrid LNB can drive 2 of either at the same time without the switch.
