RSN's Continue to Fall - Dish drops AT&T Sportsnets

[zippyfrog]

As of today, Dish has dropped the AT&T RSN's and Root Sports.

So...that means the only RSN left on Dish is NESN?

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[zippyfrog]

Here is AT&T's response:

DISH removes AT&T SportsNet

DISH Network has decided to remove AT&T SportsNet from its channel lineup. While we are disappointed, we are not surprised. DISH Network does not carry any regional sports network (“RSN”). During our renewal conversations, we proposed a

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[Scott Greczkowski]

AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports Removed from DISH TV

· DISH proposes new model that is fair to both customers and station owners

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Sept. 30, 2021 – AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) were removed from DISH TV today. With this removal, DISH TV customers will no longer have access to AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain (ATTRM), AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh (ATTPT) and Root Sports Northwest (RTNW).

“The current RSN model is fundamentally broken,” said Brian Neylon, group president, DISH TV. “This model requires nearly all customers to pay for RSNs when only a small percentage of customers actually watch them.”

AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports RSNs are demanding rates that would be passed on to nearly every customer, whether they watch RSNs or not. This inequitable model has become antiquated due to the rise of a la carte viewing options and specialized streaming services.

“Our proposal to offer sports fans access to RSNs is simple, and provides choice and value to all of our customers,” added Neylon. “It would allow DISH TV customers to choose to subscribe to the RSN channels they want — such as the regional AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports networks — on an a la carte basis, similar to premium subscription channels. With this updated RSN model, no customer would be forced to pay for content they don’t watch, and the RSNs would determine the price customers would pay for their channels.”

DISH made this consumer-friendly proposal to AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports, but they refused it. They instead chose to continue demanding rates that are unreasonable to pass on to our customers. DISH remains open to working with the RSNs to offer sports content in a way that provides choice and value to all customers.

DISH customers can visit DISHPromise.com for more information.


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[Joe Capitano]

Bad timing with the race to the playoffs for the Mariners of late AND the launch of the Kraken up here in the Northwest (though we'll get to see some of both teams' games on ESPN as those are picked up.)

 

[Juan]

AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports Removed from DISH TV

· DISH proposes new model that is fair to both customers and station owners

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Sept. 30, 2021 – AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) were removed from DISH TV today. With this removal, DISH TV customers will no longer have access to AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain (ATTRM), AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh (ATTPT) and Root Sports Northwest (RTNW).

“The current RSN model is fundamentally broken,” said Brian Neylon, group president, DISH TV. “This model requires nearly all customers to pay for RSNs when only a small percentage of customers actually watch them.”

AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports RSNs are demanding rates that would be passed on to nearly every customer, whether they watch RSNs or not. This inequitable model has become antiquated due to the rise of a la carte viewing options and specialized streaming services.

“Our proposal to offer sports fans access to RSNs is simple, and provides choice and value to all of our customers,” added Neylon. “It would allow DISH TV customers to choose to subscribe to the RSN channels they want — such as the regional AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports networks — on an a la carte basis, similar to premium subscription channels. With this updated RSN model, no customer would be forced to pay for content they don’t watch, and the RSNs would determine the price customers would pay for their channels.”

DISH made this consumer-friendly proposal to AT&T SportsNet and Root Sports, but they refused it. They instead chose to continue demanding rates that are unreasonable to pass on to our customers. DISH remains open to working with the RSNs to offer sports content in a way that provides choice and value to all customers.

DISH customers can visit DISHPromise.com for more information.


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Where is the part about lowering our bills

 

[Jim S.]

I can't understand why these channels would rather be getting NO money than SOME money. Why don't their shareholders remove the people making such imbecilic and deranged decisions?

 

[tobsandmags]

Funny that Dish is talking about the RSN business model being broken when it’s Dish’s overall business model that also seems in jeopardy. Take away live sports and all your left with is a bunch of channels with syndicated programming I can stream or OTA broadcast channels I can get via an antenna.


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[dishdude]

If someone wants sports, there's always DirecTV. But you sure will pay for it. I think it makes sense for Dish to drop these expensive channels that have a narrow viewership.

 

[strikes2k]

I can't understand why these channels would rather be getting NO money than SOME money. Why don't their shareholders remove the people making such imbecilic and deranged decisions?

I suspect they've run the numbers and know that if they accept DISH doing it the other carriers will offer the same thing the next time their contract is up. They may make more money keeping their current model on everyone but DISH rather than changing all their contracts to match the new contract model DISH is proposing. From a pure business perspective, they may be right.

 

[PortlandChris]

You all just need to accept that regional sports are not in DISH's business model at the costs the channels want to charge.

 

[TomT127]

Nothing new here. We haven't been able to get local sports through our ATTSW over Dish for years.

 

[SamCdbs]

I can't understand why these channels would rather be getting NO money than SOME money. Why don't their shareholders remove the people making such imbecilic and deranged decisions?

Because that is not how the market works. The flaw in Dish’s argument is that virtually EVERY channel is “only” watched by a small minority. And?

Pro sports cost money. Mainly because the players make a lot of money, which is a discussion for another time, but one way that money is generated is via the RSN.

If a person lives somewhere where OTA TV is available, the reason for having Dish over and antenna and something like Pluto, STIRR, or XUMO is fast becoming impossible to justify. Both are just rattle about remixes of rerun channels. Except the streamers are free.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Where is the part about lowering our bills

Back when Dish was routinely adding new channels, did our bills go up when those channels were added? (Outside of the annual price increases, of course....)

 

[Bobby]

Back when Dish was routinely adding new channels, did our bills go up when those channels were added? (Outside of the annual price increases, of course....)

Which, historically, amounted to $5 a month.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I can't understand why these channels would rather be getting NO money than SOME money. Why don't their shareholders remove the people making such imbecilic and deranged decisions?

They are greedy corporations, who hope that the standoff will result in them getting their insane amounts of money paid monthly by all subscribers, in order for a few subscribers to watch the RSNs. DISH is right to say Hell No! to this. These type of tactics, along with Local stations extorting more and more money each time their contracts come up, is why traditional tv like cable and satellite are on the decline and it will prove to be the undoing of the entire industry. Ala cart is the only way this will be rectified. Canada is now mandating ala cart as law in their country and the USA needs to follow suit. But sadly, I just see more and more subscribers leaving the traditional cable/satellite model due to the delays in fixing these situations. They will have cooked the "golden goose" due to their greed.

 

[SamCdbs]

DISH is right to say Hell No! to this.

I remain convinced that if Dish had a single channel consisting of a 4 year old coloring, there is a cadre of Dish loyalists that would praise this move as exactly the kind of TV they want.

Life is too short for content free televison.

 

[Juan]

I remain convinced that if Dish had a single channel consisting of a 4 year old coloring, there is a cadre of Dish loyalists that would praise this move as exactly the kind of TV they want.

Life is too short for content free televison.

Its called dishscapes

 

[DWS44]

I remain convinced that if Dish had a single channel consisting of a 4 year old coloring, there is a cadre of Dish loyalists that would praise this move as exactly the kind of TV they want.

There was absolutely a time when we would have clamored for the "Paint Drying Network", as long as it was in HD.

 

[Bobby]

There was absolutely a time when we would have clamored for the "Paint Drying Network", as long as it was in HD.

Especially from Alan!

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Especially from Alan!

...and don't forget about the app!!