Sat-IP Anyone? (1 Viewer)

2k1Toaster

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With the impending doom of Shaw moving to mostly HD in the next couple years, I have begun yet again to try and figure out how not to lose Canadian reception. We switched from Bell to Shaw when Bell did this, and things have been good but going downhill and will only get worse.

I was researching various options and came across Sat-IP boxes. They claim to take the coax signal from the dish and convert it to an IP compatible signal, something that could be sent over the internet perhaps with some effort and good bandwidth connections. But I have yet to find a Sat-IP client that then converts the signal back into a coax. Obviously the intention is your receiver just takes the Sat-IP input and decodes it there.

As far as I know there is no way to use a 3rd party receiver with Sat-IP compatibility with any Shaw channels. True?

So that means I would need to use my original Shaw receivers which only take coax, so I would need to convert the IP signal back again.

My plan is leaning towards installing the dish at our house in Canada where it should get all the signals. Yay. But now I need the signal 3000 miles away. With a coax to sat-ip to coax to receiver, I think that would work best as the receiver is local. Looking at slingboxes and stuff, it seems like they have lots of lag in the video to remote presses and suffer from random rebooting, freezing, and otherwise requiring a human to be present every so often to give it a kick which isn't viable.

Anyone else looking into alternatives for the future?
 

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My slingbox 350’s haven’t been touched since I installed them a few years ago except when I switched them from Dish to a TiVo on Cox cable. There is a few second lag between button pushes but I have 150/10 internet in LasVegas and Oklahoma and have no trouble watching between both homes.
 
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2k1Toaster

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My slingbox 350’s haven’t been touched since I installed them a few years ago except when I switched them from Dish to a TiVo on Cox cable. There is a few second lag between button pushes but I have 150/10 internet in LasVegas and Oklahoma and have no trouble watching between both homes.

The lag I would find incredibly annoying. That's why I'd like to move the receiver locally. We have 400/75 Mbps internet here and the "host house" has 1Gbps/100Mbps internet so that's not a problem.
 

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Sat-IP wouldn't work because the signal is encrypted. So there is no alternative other than keeping the satellite dish directly connected to the receiver like you have it now.

My slingbox 350’s haven’t been touched since I installed them a few years ago except when I switched them from Dish to a TiVo on Cox cable. There is a few second lag between button pushes but I have 150/10 internet in LasVegas and Oklahoma and have no trouble watching between both homes.
Similar experience here. I also have a Slingbox which has been flawless for many years. There is a menu option in the Slingbox app to reduce the amount of buffering from a few seconds to about 1 second.
 

2k1Toaster

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Sat-IP wouldn't work because the signal is encrypted. So there is no alternative other than keeping the satellite dish directly connected to the receiver like you have it now.


Similar experience here. I also have a Slingbox which has been flawless for many years. There is a menu option in the Slingbox app to reduce the amount of buffering from a few seconds to about 1 second.

It was my understanding that the Sat-IP has nothing to do with encryption. It basically just converts the signal to a different medium. If it can then be converted back down to a coax it would be encrypted the whole way and the original receiver would never know the satellite was so far away.
 

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It was my understanding that the Sat-IP has nothing to do with encryption. It basically just converts the signal to a different medium. If it can then be converted back down to a coax it would be encrypted the whole way and the original receiver would never know the satellite was so far away.
You're correct that Sat-IP does not deal with encryption.

Assuming you are able to find a way to convert the IP back to coax, there is no way it could contain all the information content in the coax. The signal from the dish contains dozens of transponders, each one of which transmits a LOT of bandwidth. If I had to guess, the bandwidth going through the coax is on the order of 1 GB per second.
 
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