after spending almost an hour with a tech advisor he told me that the last software update for the 811 was the 2.63 on 12/23/03. he also told me the update the techs were talking about on the tech chat on channel 101 2/09/04 have been pushed back to at least the 1st week of march, but more than likely, probably towards the end of march. just wanted to share the info. he also stated that if the 811 softwre issues weren't taken care of soon that the may just wash thier hands of the whole project. this came directly from dish network. he did tell me that if they couldn't get the 811 to work in way that that would make dish customers happy. then they would relpace them with another hd reciever. ....... i do not have the 811 just yet. i recieve it 03/03/04. if it weren't for websites like this, i would not have had a clue. i've been with dish almost ten years, since they first started. it makes me pretty scared to see a company use equipment that isn't quite ready for market.