Streaming remain most popular destination for TV

[Bilbo1]

You guys complain when you see old stuff posted ....
This one is 2 years old.

The FCC says is something like 11 million, or is it 25 million people don’t have access to broadband. Microsoft says up to ~145 million people don’t use broadband. Neither are reporting residences.

Microsoft has their data on GitHub, which you’d expect…

The FCC data are problematic because of how it’s reported. The Microsoft data don’t reflect just physical infrastructure.

I’ll go with broadband is as available as cable, since they are delivered over the same wire.


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[ncted]

FWIW: I used to have 25/3 DSL (bonded VDSL) from Frontier. TBH it was much better than DOCSIS 3.0 from Spectrum in terms of reliability and latency, but I switched anyway once UHD streaming became a thing as it pretty much filled the entire 25mb pipe. Since we moved we've had AT&T Fiber which means not having to worry about speed or latency. As for how many people do or don't have access to broadband, accurate mapping is still a work in progress:

The New Broadband Maps Are Finally Here

Today, the FCC is unveiling the pre-production draft of its new broadband maps.

www.fcc.gov

But, it does seem like companies are realizing broadband internet is worth deploying to rural areas. My brother got fiber service from Spectrum last year to replace the fixed wireless service he used to have. He lives in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Bruce]

Comcast just announced they are down another 440,000 Video Subscribers, Traditional Live TV Providers have already lost 800,000 in the 4th quarter with only 3 companies reporting so far (Dish, Verizon Fios and Comcast).

These next two years will be brutal for Cable/Satellite.

Comcast Adds 5 Million Subscribers to Peacock in Q4 Amid Heavy Costs

NBC’s Peacock streaming hub is making its way in the world — but the cost of doing so is becoming onerous. Broadband-and-entertainment giant Comcast said it managed to add five million …

variety.com

 

[Bruce]

But, it does seem like companies are realizing broadband internet is worth deploying to rural areas. My brother got fiber service from Spectrum last year to replace the fixed wireless service he used to have.

It is only worth because the Government is tossing money at them to expand.

As I said before, where I now live in Florida, they did not get broadband until 2018, what got it done was money from the Federal and State Governments.

If that was not available to them, no way it would of happened, here, every house has about two acres of property, so not enough homes to make the build out worth it to Charter to do it on their own.

Unlike back in Michigan, where in my last two subdivisions, houses were packed like sardines, I have had broadband since 1997.

 

[ncted]

It is only worth because the Government is tossing money at them to expand.

As I said before, where I now live in Florida, they did not get broadband until 2018, what got it done was money from the Federal and State Governments.

If that was not available to them, no way it would of happened, here, every house has about two acres of property, so not enough homes to make the build out worth it to Charter to do it on their own.

Unlike back in Michigan, where in my last two subdivisions, houses were packed like sardines, I have had broadband since 1997.

That is certainly part of the equation, but not the whole picture. Broadband internet is a very lucrative business, despite ISPs complaining about Netflix using up all the bandwidth. Companies need to grow to survive (or think they do), and they've already brought service to all the easily customers, so expanding into rural and underserved areas is really the only option. With their shrinking linear TV business, they have to make up the difference somewhere, and mobile and broadband seem to be fitting the bill nicely.

Yeah, they probably wouldn't pass every address nearly as quickly without the government stepping in to entice/make them, but they still would be working to expand their footprint into unserved areas just as a matter of course. Either that, or some startup or non-traditional competitor (e.g. power companies) would be doing it, which is also happening in certain places. Also, building out their mobile networks requires running lines through places that they don't currently serve, so why not pick up the customers in that area while they're at it?

 

[Bruce]

Yeah, they probably wouldn't pass every address nearly as quickly without the government stepping in to entice/make them, but they still would be working to expand their footprint into unserved areas just as a matter of course. Either that, or some startup or non-traditional competitor (e.g. power companies) would be doing it, which is also happening in certain places. Also, building out their mobile networks requires running lines through places that they don't currently serve, so why not pick up the customers in that area while they're at it?

Well, I am glad they did, my entire life until now, I lived in places where there is basically too many many people.

As a kid, Mobile Home Park ( and a real bad one, COPS could of had a entire season worth of material if they just filmed for a week there), Army, College-Apartment for two years, then my first two houses to where you could spit and hit the neighbor’s house, second house was the worse, could hear the neighbors fighting all the time, never heard the word whore used in so many different ways.

Now, I did not know what I was missing, just so quiet and peaceful here since every house is spaced so far apart, if Broadband was not available, I would never of bought this house.

 

[ncted]

Well, I am glad they did, my entire life until now, I lived in places where there is basically too many many people.

As a kid, Mobile Home Park ( and a real bad one, COPS could of had a entire season worth of material if they just filmed for a week there), Army, College-Apartment for two years, then my first two houses to where you could spit and hit the neighbor’s house, second house was the worse, could hear the neighbors fighting all the time, never heard the word whore used in so many different ways.

Now, I did not know what I was missing, just so quiet and peaceful here since every house is spaced so far apart, if Broadband was not available, I would never of bought this house.

Yeah, I really like visiting my parents in the country for those qualities. I am glad they have broadband internet as there is little to no cell service.

 

[Bruce]

Yeah, I really like visiting my parents in the country for those qualities. I am glad they have broadband internet as there is little to no cell service.

No good cell service either, use wi-fi calling, I think it sounds better then a cell, clear, no break ups.

When I communicate with my kids, I bought then Echo Show 15 for their homes, so we use those to talk.

 

[Juan]

Yep, he should support his argument with data that contradicts what has been said or STFU!

Having access to broadband and actually having broadband are not the same..

 

[navychop]

StarLink, OneWeb etc have changed the game in ways we can’t even fully appreciate yet.

 

[Jimbo]

Comcast just announced they are down another 440,000 Video Subscribers, Traditional Live TV Providers have already lost 800,000 in the 4th quarter with only 3 companies reporting so far (Dish, Verizon Fios and Comcast).

These next two years will be brutal for Cable/Satellite.

Comcast Adds 5 Million Subscribers to Peacock in Q4 Amid Heavy Costs

NBC’s Peacock streaming hub is making its way in the world — but the cost of doing so is becoming onerous. Broadband-and-entertainment giant Comcast said it managed to add five million …

variety.com

Boy, your just Giddy with the prospect that Cable/Sat is getting taken over ....

 

[Jimbo]

It is only worth because the Government is tossing money at them to expand.

As I said before, where I now live in Florida, they did not get broadband until 2018, what got it done was money from the Federal and State Governments.

If that was not available to them, no way it would of happened, here, every house has about two acres of property, so not enough homes to make the build out worth it to Charter to do it on their own.

Unlike back in Michigan, where in my last two subdivisions, houses were packed like sardines, I have had broadband since 1997.

Give your description of "Broadband" please.

 

[Bruce]

Give your description of "Broadband" please.

In my opinion, at least 50 down.

But I do get 1G down, about 45 up.

 

[meStevo]

Yeah I get 1G (effectively 650-760) down, my only alternative is 40 down from Centurylink, and I'll never settle for that in a household that consistently uses 3-4TB/mo.

 

[Bruce]

Yeah I get 1G (effectively 650-760) down, my only alternative is 40 down from Centurylink, and I'll never settle for that in a household that consistently uses 3-4TB/mo.

It is just me and I go thru about 1.5TBs.

Keep waiting to see if Charter adds Data Caps once the Government deal ends.

 

[meStevo]

It is just me and I go thru about 1.5TBs.

Keep waiting to see if Charter adds Data Caps once the Government deal ends.

I pay and extra $50 to not have one since that is cheaper than paying for overages.

A modest cost all things considered though.

 

[Bruce]

I pay and extra $50 to not have one since that is cheaper than paying for overages.

A modest cost all things considered though.

I would pay also.

Who is your ISP?

 

[meStevo]

I would pay also.

Who is your ISP?

Cox, the only real ISP in Vegas. Was hoping 5g internet might help with that, but not so much.

Google fiber is coming, I have no expectation it'll ever be available to me.

 

[navychop]

StarLink?

 

[Bruce]

Boy, your just Giddy with the prospect that Cable/Sat is getting taken over ....

Just cannot win with you, I stay out of the DirecTV forum with this type of info, even told a member in that forum that kept posting about YTTV to start posting over here, I am actually posting Cord Cutting material in the proper area and yet you still complain.

I did not create this trend of Cable/Satellite dying a slow death, they did that to themselves.