hi, and thanks to all,i have finally got my ku system up and running.I started out a couple of weeks ago not knowing nothing about nothing.But with a little bit of determination and a whole lot of advice and help from you guys i am tuning in to sats and getting the channels i seek out.I wanted to give up but i am not a quitter,it has all paid off...again thanks..i put the 5 pound hammer back in the tool box ( smile)