got another crazy idea that works so far. i have a pansat 2700 that has a output to continue the sat signal to another receiver. i ran this into a dishnetwork SW21 then into a dish301 receiver. it seems to work OK. but i need a better lbn I'm using a dishnetwork lbn. and how can i trick the receiver into accepting all dishnetwork sat signals without running the check switch all the time? i got some fantastic signal strengths from 61.5 and 129! sorry i did not know where to post sense its half fta and half dish? so i guess my questions are 1;whats the best general purpose lbn that will work with dish? 2;cant you cascade 3 Sat's by using 2-SW21's, i only get 2 Sat's that way now. 3; how can i trick the receiver? thanks!