[VOOM] Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

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Hi, I'm new to the forum. Sorry to start off with an install rant:
EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND RESIDENTS:
Beware of install "Tech" named CHUCK from Datalink.
WOWSER, where do I start???
Chuckie missed my install window of 8:00 to !2:00 a.m. on Thursday,
June 10th and I called Datalink. They said Chuckie would be by after
3:00
instead. At 4:30 p.m. I called Datalink again. At 5:00 pm Chuckie
called and
said he was on his way and would be here in an hour. At 6:30 pm,
Chuckie called again and said : WHOOPS!, you need an upgraded antenna
for
locals and the office is closed.....don't worry though, I have one at
my house and
I will come tomorrow (Friday) between 7:00 and 7:30 am. OK? OK!
(?question? why wasn't upgraded antenna already in his truck for my
8:00-12:00
install???)

NEXT DAY 8:30 am Chuckie calls and says "I will be there in a half
hour" My
response was: "If you're not here in a half hour Chuck, don't come."
Chuck eventually got here and installed the dish. He installed the
box in front of
the TV instead of the back and left it on the floor. Cannot shut the
glass doors to the
TV stand. I asked him to connect box to the back of the TV since it
won't fit in the
cabinet. He says that he would have to reinstall the tuner and
indicates strongly that he doesn't
want to do it. I say OK, we will pull the box thru the cabinet and
around back ourselves.

On to the Off Air Antenna that was the whole reason for his not coming
Thursday...it is
starting to drizzle and Chuck wants to do it tomorrow--Saturday. I
make arrangements for
him to come back Monday, the 14th since we will not be home Sat.
OK?--7:00-7:30 Monday morning and WE are top priority!!! OK!

Monday at 3:00 in the afternoon, I call Datalink and ask them to send
someone other than Chuck.
They say OK and Chuck calls immediately thereafter and says he's on
his way WITH my upgraded OTA
antenna. 3 hours later I had a shiney new Winegard PR-4400 on the
roof. CBS, NBC, ABC and a
handful of MD public TV channels came in. No FOX; no WB. Chuck
pronounced that as amazing and told me that we really should not
expect any locals, really. He was right. Next morning, CBS and one
PBS channel remained. I called Datalink and asked them to send
someone to check the OTA antenna
install. Someone who was not Chuck. She said that we had a SENSAR
and why was I complaining, it is a great
antenna? She wanted to know what my color code (zone) was. How the
heck do I know???
She said she'd see and call me back. She never did.

Wednesday morning June 16th. I hit the net and learn that we surely
do not have a "Sensar" on the
roof. It is a 4 Bay, one staff PR-4400 for yellow/lt green/dk green
area; a small directional antenna. I guess this came from Chuck's
house and not from the office per the above. I find out that we are
in red/blue/violet zone; need a medium to large OTA antenna with amp
and should have had at least
the 8 Bay PR-8800.
The thing Chuck said he needed on my original install date per above
:-S
Datalink said that 8800 is what Chuck checked out from the office.
NOOOOOOOO. That is not what is on my roof!!!! I called Chuck and he
said he checked out the 8800 but only put half of it up. (SAY
WHAT???) He said that in his experience, we would not get locals any
better with both halves.
(SAY WHAAAAT???) antennaweb.org begs to differ. This guy is a
menace.

Chuckie does not have Voom. He has Directv. My guess is that our
PR-8800 that he checked out is either now on his own roof or else he
does some jobs on the side. I spent the entire day today on the phone
with
VOOM-->INSTALLS, INC.--->DATALINK trying to get a Square Shooter with
a preamp since
Datalink doesn't even carry the Sensar that the one lady thought we
have. The 4400 is really ugly and 8800 must be double ugly so I
thought I'd go ahead and get something better since they have to
change it anyway.

I got so far as getting an authorization for the SQ SHOOTER up to the
preamp part. Voom/Installs Inc. is allowing us $99.00 towards the
Square Shooter ($99.00 online) which Datalink charges 130.00 for and I
agreed to pay the difference.
I am paying totally for the preamp ($58.00 online). Why, now is there
a friggin' issue with the preamp
and Datalink when Installs Inc. alraeday said that I could have it at
my expense. I now cannot get
Datalink to schedule my SQ SHOOTER install over the preamp issue.
Anyway, BEWARE OF CHUCK and thanks for listening. : )



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You checked his SBCA 1+2 card and checked it against a picture ID, license (if needed in your state), VoOM certification.....................Right? We all want our TV and we want it RIGHT NOW! But if you inform the installation company that you will be checking all of the above BEFORE they start work, they will send out their best installer, all of the above are required to install satellite systems, so if the installer does not have them you are letting a complete stranger into your home! Folks do all the legal satellite installers and yourself a favor and help us rid the industry of Chuckies! We are drowning in Chuckies! AN installer also NEEDS ladders (not aluminum!!!) satellite meter, and a drill is a real plus! Sorry to hear this all to common story : (
 
[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

Chuckie needs a beatin'

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> You should have shot Chuckie....
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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

wow, that was fast! Thanks for the reply. I have a vision of
the Chuckster showing up in his beat up truck with my SQ Shooter...
and yes I WILL shoot him on sight...or something :-S
:) Charli

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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

Hi PSB,
Lord no. I did not know to check this. I appreciate your info. and
hope that others will read your warning. On a happy note, just
received a call from Datalink and they are bringing my Square Shooter
on the 23rd. I asked them NOT to send Chuck.
: ) Charli


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, PSB <PSB.17yoj9@n...> wrote:
>
> You checked his SBCA 1+2 card and checked it against a picture ID,
> license (if needed in your state), VoOM
> certification.....................Right? We all want our TV and we
> want it RIGHT NOW! But if you inform the installation company that

you
> will be checking all of the above BEFORE they start work, they will
> send out their best installer, all of the above are required to

install
> satellite systems, so if the installer does not have them you are
> letting a complete stranger into your home! Folks do all the legal
> satellite installers and yourself a favor and help us rid the

industry
> of Chuckies! We are drowning in Chuckies! AN installer also NEEDS
> ladders (not aluminum!!!) satellite meter, and a drill is a real

plus!
> Sorry to hear this all to common story : (
>
>
> --
> PSB




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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

oh, heh PSB,
It actually WAS an aluminum ladder too (LOL)
We adore VoOm BTW, I don't blame the company or Installs Inc. (who
were very helpful).


> AN installer also NEEDS
> ladders (not aluminum!!!) satellite meter, and a drill is a real

plus!
> Sorry to hear this all to common story : (
>
>
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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

Why NOT blame Voom and Installs Inc????????????????????

THEY are the ones that hired this bozo/chuck/company to install the
dish. THEY are the ones that advertise "professional" installation
and the send these guys out. THEY are responsible for this. I just
do not understand how they get away with duping people into thinking
that it is the installer that is to blame.........


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Charli" <dragonstar@c...> wrote:
> oh, heh PSB,
> It actually WAS an aluminum ladder too (LOL)
> We adore VoOm BTW, I don't blame the company or Installs Inc. (who
> were very helpful).
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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

Hi SnappingFish:
I got the impression that VoOm really cared about what had happened,
once I got through. I got the impression that Install Inc. cared
too..once I got through. They were extremely helpful. Datalink?
that's the end of the chain and they have a bad apple on their hands
with Chuck but to tell you the truth, they have been OK too. They
have a dishonest employee, it happens.
I think VoOm is terrific and enjoy the service enough to pursue it and
try to get it right with the understanding that it's new to these end
installers. Dishonesty-wise, I feel sorry for consumers who are not
able to do the research and learn what they are supposed to have and
what they can do about it.
~Charli

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "snappingfish" <snappingfish@y...> wrote:
> Why NOT blame Voom and Installs Inc????????????????????
>
> THEY are the ones that hired this bozo/chuck/company to install the
> dish. THEY are the ones that advertise "professional" installation
> and the send these guys out. THEY are responsible for this. I just
> do not understand how they get away with duping people into thinking
> that it is the installer that is to blame.........
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Charli" <dragonstar@c...> wrote:
> > oh, heh PSB,
> > It actually WAS an aluminum ladder too (LOL)
> > We adore VoOm BTW, I don't blame the company or Installs Inc. (who
> > were very helpful).
> >




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[VOOM] SnappingFish

Installer-wise, He put up "half" of my "upgraded" ota antenna(?????)
: D
I had called Chuckie today and said "DAWG, I coulda got the same thing
with a coat hanger!"

>I just
>do not understand how they get away with duping
>people into thinking
>that it is the installer that is to blame.........




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[VOOM] SnappingFish

Installer-wise, He put up "half" of my "upgraded" ota antenna(?????)
: D
I had called Chuckie today and said "DAWG, I coulda got the same thing
with a coat hanger!"

>I just
>do not understand how they get away with duping
>people into thinking
>that it is the installer that is to blame.........




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so what time is CHUCK coming back to put up the SQ SHOOTER (ha ha)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charli" <dragonstar@coffeepotghost.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: [VOOM] Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr


>
>
> Hi, I'm new to the forum. Sorry to start off with an install rant:
> EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND RESIDENTS:
> Beware of install "Tech" named CHUCK from Datalink.
> WOWSER, where do I start???
> Chuckie missed my install window of 8:00 to !2:00 a.m. on Thursday,
> June 10th and I called Datalink. They said Chuckie would be by after
> 3:00
> instead. At 4:30 p.m. I called Datalink again. At 5:00 pm Chuckie
> called and
> said he was on his way and would be here in an hour. At 6:30 pm,
> Chuckie called again and said : WHOOPS!, you need an upgraded antenna
> for
> locals and the office is closed.....don't worry though, I have one at
> my house and
> I will come tomorrow (Friday) between 7:00 and 7:30 am. OK? OK!
> (?question? why wasn't upgraded antenna already in his truck for my
> 8:00-12:00
> install???)
>
> NEXT DAY 8:30 am Chuckie calls and says "I will be there in a half
> hour" My
> response was: "If you're not here in a half hour Chuck, don't come."
> Chuck eventually got here and installed the dish. He installed the
> box in front of
> the TV instead of the back and left it on the floor. Cannot shut the
> glass doors to the
> TV stand. I asked him to connect box to the back of the TV since it
> won't fit in the
> cabinet. He says that he would have to reinstall the tuner and
> indicates strongly that he doesn't
> want to do it. I say OK, we will pull the box thru the cabinet and
> around back ourselves.
>
> On to the Off Air Antenna that was the whole reason for his not coming
> Thursday...it is
> starting to drizzle and Chuck wants to do it tomorrow--Saturday. I
> make arrangements for
> him to come back Monday, the 14th since we will not be home Sat.
> OK?--7:00-7:30 Monday morning and WE are top priority!!! OK!
>
> Monday at 3:00 in the afternoon, I call Datalink and ask them to send
> someone other than Chuck.
> They say OK and Chuck calls immediately thereafter and says he's on
> his way WITH my upgraded OTA
> antenna. 3 hours later I had a shiney new Winegard PR-4400 on the
> roof. CBS, NBC, ABC and a
> handful of MD public TV channels came in. No FOX; no WB. Chuck
> pronounced that as amazing and told me that we really should not
> expect any locals, really. He was right. Next morning, CBS and one
> PBS channel remained. I called Datalink and asked them to send
> someone to check the OTA antenna
> install. Someone who was not Chuck. She said that we had a SENSAR
> and why was I complaining, it is a great
> antenna? She wanted to know what my color code (zone) was. How the
> heck do I know???
> She said she'd see and call me back. She never did.
>
> Wednesday morning June 16th. I hit the net and learn that we surely
> do not have a "Sensar" on the
> roof. It is a 4 Bay, one staff PR-4400 for yellow/lt green/dk green
> area; a small directional antenna. I guess this came from Chuck's
> house and not from the office per the above. I find out that we are
> in red/blue/violet zone; need a medium to large OTA antenna with amp
> and should have had at least
> the 8 Bay PR-8800.
> The thing Chuck said he needed on my original install date per above
> :-S
> Datalink said that 8800 is what Chuck checked out from the office.
> NOOOOOOOO. That is not what is on my roof!!!! I called Chuck and he
> said he checked out the 8800 but only put half of it up. (SAY
> WHAT???) He said that in his experience, we would not get locals any
> better with both halves.
> (SAY WHAAAAT???) antennaweb.org begs to differ. This guy is a
> menace.
>
> Chuckie does not have Voom. He has Directv. My guess is that our
> PR-8800 that he checked out is either now on his own roof or else he
> does some jobs on the side. I spent the entire day today on the phone
> with
> VOOM-->INSTALLS, INC.--->DATALINK trying to get a Square Shooter with
> a preamp since
> Datalink doesn't even carry the Sensar that the one lady thought we
> have. The 4400 is really ugly and 8800 must be double ugly so I
> thought I'd go ahead and get something better since they have to
> change it anyway.
>
> I got so far as getting an authorization for the SQ SHOOTER up to the
> preamp part. Voom/Installs Inc. is allowing us $99.00 towards the
> Square Shooter ($99.00 online) which Datalink charges 130.00 for and I
> agreed to pay the difference.
> I am paying totally for the preamp ($58.00 online). Why, now is there
> a friggin' issue with the preamp
> and Datalink when Installs Inc. alraeday said that I could have it at
> my expense. I now cannot get
> Datalink to schedule my SQ SHOOTER install over the preamp issue.
> Anyway, BEWARE OF CHUCK and thanks for listening. : )
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>



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I'd be amazed if the Square Shooter and pre amp does any better than a 4400.
The Square Shooter is more of a metropolitan antenna.
You should request or find a real antenna guy that has a spectrum analyzer.
Everyone else is just guessing
-----Original Message-----
From: Charli [mailto:dragonstar@coffeepotghost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:29 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr




Hi, I'm new to the forum. Sorry to start off with an install rant:
EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND RESIDENTS:
Beware of install "Tech" named CHUCK from Datalink.
WOWSER, where do I start???
Chuckie missed my install window of 8:00 to !2:00 a.m. on Thursday,
June 10th and I called Datalink. They said Chuckie would be by after
3:00
instead. At 4:30 p.m. I called Datalink again. At 5:00 pm Chuckie
called and
said he was on his way and would be here in an hour. At 6:30 pm,
Chuckie called again and said : WHOOPS!, you need an upgraded antenna
for
locals and the office is closed.....don't worry though, I have one at
my house and
I will come tomorrow (Friday) between 7:00 and 7:30 am. OK? OK!
(?question? why wasn't upgraded antenna already in his truck for my
8:00-12:00
install???)

NEXT DAY 8:30 am Chuckie calls and says "I will be there in a half
hour" My
response was: "If you're not here in a half hour Chuck, don't come."
Chuck eventually got here and installed the dish. He installed the
box in front of
the TV instead of the back and left it on the floor. Cannot shut the
glass doors to the
TV stand. I asked him to connect box to the back of the TV since it
won't fit in the
cabinet. He says that he would have to reinstall the tuner and
indicates strongly that he doesn't
want to do it. I say OK, we will pull the box thru the cabinet and
around back ourselves.

On to the Off Air Antenna that was the whole reason for his not coming
Thursday...it is
starting to drizzle and Chuck wants to do it tomorrow--Saturday. I
make arrangements for
him to come back Monday, the 14th since we will not be home Sat.
OK?--7:00-7:30 Monday morning and WE are top priority!!! OK!

Monday at 3:00 in the afternoon, I call Datalink and ask them to send
someone other than Chuck.
They say OK and Chuck calls immediately thereafter and says he's on
his way WITH my upgraded OTA
antenna. 3 hours later I had a shiney new Winegard PR-4400 on the
roof. CBS, NBC, ABC and a
handful of MD public TV channels came in. No FOX; no WB. Chuck
pronounced that as amazing and told me that we really should not
expect any locals, really. He was right. Next morning, CBS and one
PBS channel remained. I called Datalink and asked them to send
someone to check the OTA antenna
install. Someone who was not Chuck. She said that we had a SENSAR
and why was I complaining, it is a great
antenna? She wanted to know what my color code (zone) was. How the
heck do I know???
She said she'd see and call me back. She never did.

Wednesday morning June 16th. I hit the net and learn that we surely
do not have a "Sensar" on the
roof. It is a 4 Bay, one staff PR-4400 for yellow/lt green/dk green
area; a small directional antenna. I guess this came from Chuck's
house and not from the office per the above. I find out that we are
in red/blue/violet zone; need a medium to large OTA antenna with amp
and should have had at least
the 8 Bay PR-8800.
The thing Chuck said he needed on my original install date per above
:-S
Datalink said that 8800 is what Chuck checked out from the office.
NOOOOOOOO. That is not what is on my roof!!!! I called Chuck and he
said he checked out the 8800 but only put half of it up. (SAY
WHAT???) He said that in his experience, we would not get locals any
better with both halves.
(SAY WHAAAAT???) antennaweb.org begs to differ. This guy is a
menace.

Chuckie does not have Voom. He has Directv. My guess is that our
PR-8800 that he checked out is either now on his own roof or else he
does some jobs on the side. I spent the entire day today on the phone
with
VOOM-->INSTALLS, INC.--->DATALINK trying to get a Square Shooter with
a preamp since
Datalink doesn't even carry the Sensar that the one lady thought we
have. The 4400 is really ugly and 8800 must be double ugly so I
thought I'd go ahead and get something better since they have to
change it anyway.

I got so far as getting an authorization for the SQ SHOOTER up to the
preamp part. Voom/Installs Inc. is allowing us $99.00 towards the
Square Shooter ($99.00 online) which Datalink charges 130.00 for and I
agreed to pay the difference.
I am paying totally for the preamp ($58.00 online). Why, now is there
a friggin' issue with the preamp
and Datalink when Installs Inc. alraeday said that I could have it at
my expense. I now cannot get
Datalink to schedule my SQ SHOOTER install over the preamp issue.
Anyway, BEWARE OF CHUCK and thanks for listening. : )


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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

My nightmare....I implored them to send someone else.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, frogli69@o... wrote:
> so what time is CHUCK coming back to put up the SQ SHOOTER (ha ha)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charli" <dragonstar@c...>
> To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:28 PM
> Subject: [VOOM] Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi, I'm new to the forum. Sorry to start off with an install

rant:
> > EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND RESIDENTS:
> > Beware of install "Tech" named CHUCK from Datalink.
> > WOWSER, where do I start???
> > Chuckie missed my install window of 8:00 to !2:00 a.m. on

Thursday,
> > June 10th and I called Datalink. They said Chuckie would be by

after
> > 3:00
> > instead. At 4:30 p.m. I called Datalink again. At 5:00 pm

Chuckie
> > called and
> > said he was on his way and would be here in an hour. At 6:30 pm,
> > Chuckie called again and said : WHOOPS!, you need an upgraded

antenna
> > for
> > locals and the office is closed.....don't worry though, I have one

at
> > my house and
> > I will come tomorrow (Friday) between 7:00 and 7:30 am. OK? OK!
> > (?question? why wasn't upgraded antenna already in his truck for

my
> > 8:00-12:00
> > install???)
> >
> > NEXT DAY 8:30 am Chuckie calls and says "I will be there in a

half
> > hour" My
> > response was: "If you're not here in a half hour Chuck, don't

come."
> > Chuck eventually got here and installed the dish. He installed

the
> > box in front of
> > the TV instead of the back and left it on the floor. Cannot shut

the
> > glass doors to the
> > TV stand. I asked him to connect box to the back of the TV since

it
> > won't fit in the
> > cabinet. He says that he would have to reinstall the tuner and
> > indicates strongly that he doesn't
> > want to do it. I say OK, we will pull the box thru the cabinet

and
> > around back ourselves.
> >
> > On to the Off Air Antenna that was the whole reason for his not

coming
> > Thursday...it is
> > starting to drizzle and Chuck wants to do it tomorrow--Saturday.

I
> > make arrangements for
> > him to come back Monday, the 14th since we will not be home Sat.
> > OK?--7:00-7:30 Monday morning and WE are top priority!!! OK!
> >
> > Monday at 3:00 in the afternoon, I call Datalink and ask them to

send
> > someone other than Chuck.
> > They say OK and Chuck calls immediately thereafter and says he's

on
> > his way WITH my upgraded OTA
> > antenna. 3 hours later I had a shiney new Winegard PR-4400 on

the
> > roof. CBS, NBC, ABC and a
> > handful of MD public TV channels came in. No FOX; no WB. Chuck
> > pronounced that as amazing and told me that we really should not
> > expect any locals, really. He was right. Next morning, CBS and

one
> > PBS channel remained. I called Datalink and asked them to send
> > someone to check the OTA antenna
> > install. Someone who was not Chuck. She said that we had a

SENSAR
> > and why was I complaining, it is a great
> > antenna? She wanted to know what my color code (zone) was. How

the
> > heck do I know???
> > She said she'd see and call me back. She never did.
> >
> > Wednesday morning June 16th. I hit the net and learn that we

surely
> > do not have a "Sensar" on the
> > roof. It is a 4 Bay, one staff PR-4400 for yellow/lt green/dk

green
> > area; a small directional antenna. I guess this came from Chuck's
> > house and not from the office per the above. I find out that we

are
> > in red/blue/violet zone; need a medium to large OTA antenna with

amp
> > and should have had at least
> > the 8 Bay PR-8800.
> > The thing Chuck said he needed on my original install date per

above
> > :-S
> > Datalink said that 8800 is what Chuck checked out from the office.


> > NOOOOOOOO. That is not what is on my roof!!!! I called Chuck and

he
> > said he checked out the 8800 but only put half of it up. (SAY
> > WHAT???) He said that in his experience, we would not get locals

any
> > better with both halves.
> > (SAY WHAAAAT???) antennaweb.org begs to differ. This guy is a
> > menace.
> >
> > Chuckie does not have Voom. He has Directv. My guess is that our
> > PR-8800 that he checked out is either now on his own roof or else

he
> > does some jobs on the side. I spent the entire day today on the

phone
> > with
> > VOOM-->INSTALLS, INC.--->DATALINK trying to get a Square Shooter

with
> > a preamp since
> > Datalink doesn't even carry the Sensar that the one lady thought

we
> > have. The 4400 is really ugly and 8800 must be double ugly so I
> > thought I'd go ahead and get something better since they have to
> > change it anyway.
> >
> > I got so far as getting an authorization for the SQ SHOOTER up to

the
> > preamp part. Voom/Installs Inc. is allowing us $99.00 towards

the
> > Square Shooter ($99.00 online) which Datalink charges 130.00 for

and I
> > agreed to pay the difference.
> > I am paying totally for the preamp ($58.00 online). Why, now is

there
> > a friggin' issue with the preamp
> > and Datalink when Installs Inc. alraeday said that I could have it

at
> > my expense. I now cannot get
> > Datalink to schedule my SQ SHOOTER install over the preamp issue.


> > Anyway, BEWARE OF CHUCK and thanks for listening. : )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




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Re: [VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

For Chuckie's well-being, I hope they send someone else.

On Jun 17, 2004, at 5:54 AM, Charli wrote:

> My nightmare....I implored them to send someone else.
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, frogli69@o... wrote:
> > so what time is CHUCK coming back to put up the SQ SHOOTER (ha ha)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charli" <dragonstar@c...>
> > To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:28 PM
> > Subject: [VOOM] Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, I'm new to the forum.  Sorry to start off with an install

> rant:
> > > EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND RESIDENTS:
> > > Beware of install "Tech" named CHUCK from Datalink.
> > > WOWSER, where do I start???
> > > Chuckie missed my install window of 8:00 to !2:00 a.m. on

> Thursday,
> > > June 10th and I called Datalink.  They said Chuckie would be by

> after
> > > 3:00
> > > instead.  At 4:30 p.m. I called Datalink again.  At  5:00 pm

> Chuckie
> > > called and
> > > said he was on his way and would be here in an hour.  At 6:30 pm,
> > > Chuckie called again and said : WHOOPS!, you need an upgraded

> antenna
> > > for
> > > locals and the office is closed.....don't worry though, I have one

> at
> > > my house and
> > > I will come tomorrow (Friday) between 7:00 and 7:30 am.  OK?  OK!
> > > (?question?  why wasn't upgraded antenna already in his truck for

> my
> > > 8:00-12:00
> > > install???)
> > >
> > >  NEXT DAY 8:30 am Chuckie calls and says "I will be there in a

> half
> > > hour"  My
> > > response was:  "If you're not here in a half hour Chuck, don't

> come."
> > > Chuck eventually got here and installed the dish.  He installed

> the
> > > box in front of
> > > the TV instead of the back and left it on the floor.  Cannot shut

> the
> > > glass doors to the
> > > TV stand.  I asked him to connect box to the back of the TV since

> it
> > > won't fit in the
> > > cabinet.  He says that he would have to reinstall the tuner and
> > > indicates strongly that he doesn't
> > > want to do it.  I say OK, we will pull the box thru the cabinet

> and
> > > around back ourselves.
> > >
> > > On to the Off Air Antenna that was the whole reason for his not

> coming
> > > Thursday...it is
> > > starting to drizzle and Chuck wants to do it tomorrow--Saturday. 

> I
> > > make arrangements for
> > > him to come back Monday, the 14th since we will not be home Sat. 
> > > OK?--7:00-7:30 Monday morning and WE are top priority!!!  OK!
> > >
> > > Monday at 3:00 in the afternoon, I call Datalink and ask them to

> send
> > > someone other than Chuck.
> > > They say OK and Chuck calls immediately thereafter and says he's

> on
> > > his way WITH my upgraded OTA
> > > antenna.   3 hours later I had a shiney new Winegard PR-4400 on

> the
> > > roof.   CBS, NBC, ABC and a
> > > handful of MD public TV channels came in.  No FOX; no WB.  Chuck
> > > pronounced that as amazing and told me that we really should not
> > > expect any locals, really.  He was right.  Next morning, CBS and

> one
> > > PBS channel remained.  I called Datalink and asked them to send
> > > someone to check the OTA antenna
> > > install.  Someone who was not Chuck.  She said that we had a

> SENSAR
> > > and why was I complaining, it is a great
> > > antenna?   She wanted to know what my color code (zone) was.  How

> the
> > > heck do I know??? 
> > > She said she'd see and call me back.  She never did.  
> > >
> > > Wednesday morning June 16th.  I hit the net and learn that we

> surely
> > > do not have a "Sensar" on the
> > > roof.  It is a 4 Bay, one staff PR-4400 for yellow/lt green/dk

> green
> > > area; a small directional antenna.  I guess this came from Chuck's
> > > house and not from the office per the above.  I find out that we

> are
> > > in red/blue/violet zone; need a medium to large OTA antenna with

> amp
> > > and should have had at least
> > > the 8 Bay PR-8800. 
> > > The thing Chuck said he needed on my original install date per

> above
> > > :-S
> > > Datalink said that 8800 is what Chuck checked out from the office.

>  
> > > NOOOOOOOO.  That is not what is on my roof!!!! I called Chuck and

> he
> > > said he checked out the 8800 but only put half of it up.  (SAY
> > > WHAT???)  He said that in his experience, we would not get locals

> any
> > > better with both halves. 
> > > (SAY WHAAAAT???)  antennaweb.org begs to differ.  This guy is a
> > > menace.
> > >
> > > Chuckie does not have Voom.  He has Directv.  My guess is that our
> > > PR-8800 that he checked out is either now on his own roof or else

> he
> > > does some jobs on the side.  I spent the entire day today on the

> phone
> > > with
> > > VOOM-->INSTALLS, INC.--->DATALINK  trying to get a Square Shooter

> with
> > > a preamp since
> > > Datalink doesn't even carry the Sensar that the one lady thought

> we
> > > have.  The 4400 is really ugly and 8800 must be double ugly so I
> > > thought I'd go ahead and get something better since they have to
> > > change it anyway. 
> > >
> > > I got so far as getting an authorization for the SQ SHOOTER up to

> the
> > > preamp part.   Voom/Installs Inc.  is allowing us $99.00 towards

> the
> > > Square Shooter ($99.00 online) which Datalink charges 130.00 for

> and I
> > > agreed to pay the difference. 
> > > I am paying totally for the preamp ($58.00 online).  Why, now is

> there
> > > a friggin' issue with the preamp
> > > and Datalink when Installs Inc. alraeday said that I could have it

> at
> > > my expense.  I now cannot get
> > > Datalink to schedule my SQ SHOOTER install over the preamp issue.

>
> > > Anyway, BEWARE OF CHUCK and thanks for listening.  : )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >

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[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

Hi Steve
Yeah, actually I was really thinking of just calling an independant
installer as I knew there'd be hours involved sitting on hold with the
3 VoOm entities but bucks-wise, thought I'd at least try. Good advice
and that is plan B if shooter doesn't fill the bill. I believe that
it will, though. A short range directional was never appropriate for
here from the git-go, our stations are just beyond it's reach. I
don't understand why the tech took it upon himself to install "half"
of our medium-range antenna if, in fact that's what he did. There was
a problem with him and OTA install from day one. I believe there was
something underhanded with this but he's Datalink's problem.

Anywho we'll have our antennaweb suggested medium range reach across
the Chesapeake Bay with a 16.5 db boost and
I'll certainly let y'all know how it turns out. We can also try
mapping to D.C. instead of Baltimore. The press about Shooter's
ability to see through buildings doesn't mean that it is a short range
device. It is a plus for Urbanites and apartment dwellers but I think
all the press about that is causing people to think it only works in
the city. It has a 50 mile range w/out the amp.
~Charli

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Bartosch" <majortom@g...> wrote:
> I'd be amazed if the Square Shooter and pre amp does any better than

a 4400.
> The Square Shooter is more of a metropolitan antenna.
> You should request or find a real antenna guy that has a spectrum

analyzer.
> Everyone else is just guessing
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charli [mailto:dragonstar@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:29 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr
>
>
>
>
> Hi, I'm new to the forum. Sorry to start off with an install

rant:
> EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND RESIDENTS:
> Beware of install "Tech" named CHUCK from Datalink.
> WOWSER, where do I start???
> Chuckie missed my install window of 8:00 to !2:00 a.m. on

Thursday,
> June 10th and I called Datalink. They said Chuckie would be by

after
> 3:00
> instead. At 4:30 p.m. I called Datalink again. At 5:00 pm

Chuckie
> called and
> said he was on his way and would be here in an hour. At 6:30 pm,
> Chuckie called again and said : WHOOPS!, you need an upgraded

antenna
> for
> locals and the office is closed.....don't worry though, I have one

at
> my house and
> I will come tomorrow (Friday) between 7:00 and 7:30 am. OK? OK!
> (?question? why wasn't upgraded antenna already in his truck for

my
> 8:00-12:00
> install???)
>
> NEXT DAY 8:30 am Chuckie calls and says "I will be there in a half
> hour" My
> response was: "If you're not here in a half hour Chuck, don't

come."
> Chuck eventually got here and installed the dish. He installed

the
> box in front of
> the TV instead of the back and left it on the floor. Cannot shut

the
> glass doors to the
> TV stand. I asked him to connect box to the back of the TV since

it
> won't fit in the
> cabinet. He says that he would have to reinstall the tuner and
> indicates strongly that he doesn't
> want to do it. I say OK, we will pull the box thru the cabinet

and
> around back ourselves.
>
> On to the Off Air Antenna that was the whole reason for his not

coming
> Thursday...it is
> starting to drizzle and Chuck wants to do it tomorrow--Saturday.

I
> make arrangements for
> him to come back Monday, the 14th since we will not be home Sat.
> OK?--7:00-7:30 Monday morning and WE are top priority!!! OK!
>
> Monday at 3:00 in the afternoon, I call Datalink and ask them to

send
> someone other than Chuck.
> They say OK and Chuck calls immediately thereafter and says he's

on
> his way WITH my upgraded OTA
> antenna. 3 hours later I had a shiney new Winegard PR-4400 on

the
> roof. CBS, NBC, ABC and a
> handful of MD public TV channels came in. No FOX; no WB. Chuck
> pronounced that as amazing and told me that we really should not
> expect any locals, really. He was right. Next morning, CBS and

one
> PBS channel remained. I called Datalink and asked them to send
> someone to check the OTA antenna
> install. Someone who was not Chuck. She said that we had a

SENSAR
> and why was I complaining, it is a great
> antenna? She wanted to know what my color code (zone) was. How

the
> heck do I know???
> She said she'd see and call me back. She never did.
>
> Wednesday morning June 16th. I hit the net and learn that we

surely
> do not have a "Sensar" on the
> roof. It is a 4 Bay, one staff PR-4400 for yellow/lt green/dk

green
> area; a small directional antenna. I guess this came from Chuck's
> house and not from the office per the above. I find out that we

are
> in red/blue/violet zone; need a medium to large OTA antenna with

amp
> and should have had at least
> the 8 Bay PR-8800.
> The thing Chuck said he needed on my original install date per

above
> :-S
> Datalink said that 8800 is what Chuck checked out from the office.
> NOOOOOOOO. That is not what is on my roof!!!! I called Chuck and

he
> said he checked out the 8800 but only put half of it up. (SAY
> WHAT???) He said that in his experience, we would not get locals

any
> better with both halves.
> (SAY WHAAAAT???) antennaweb.org begs to differ. This guy is a
> menace.
>
> Chuckie does not have Voom. He has Directv. My guess is that our
> PR-8800 that he checked out is either now on his own roof or else

he
> does some jobs on the side. I spent the entire day today on the

phone
> with
> VOOM-->INSTALLS, INC.--->DATALINK trying to get a Square Shooter

with
> a preamp since
> Datalink doesn't even carry the Sensar that the one lady thought

we
> have. The 4400 is really ugly and 8800 must be double ugly so I
> thought I'd go ahead and get something better since they have to
> change it anyway.
>
> I got so far as getting an authorization for the SQ SHOOTER up to

the
> preamp part. Voom/Installs Inc. is allowing us $99.00 towards

the
> Square Shooter ($99.00 online) which Datalink charges 130.00 for

and I
> agreed to pay the difference.
> I am paying totally for the preamp ($58.00 online). Why, now is

there
> a friggin' issue with the preamp
> and Datalink when Installs Inc. alraeday said that I could have it

at
> my expense. I now cannot get
> Datalink to schedule my SQ SHOOTER install over the preamp issue.
> Anyway, BEWARE OF CHUCK and thanks for listening. : )
>
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That's why VOOM is doomed. I only install DirecTV HD. I don't even install Dish HD. Too many problems!!
 
Mike500 said:
That's why VOOM is doomed. I only install DirecTV HD. I don't even install Dish HD. Too many problems!!

I don't get your point here. If you install one system, what's wrong with installing the others. Every installer I have met has been able to installe either of the three systems.
 
[VOOM] Re: Hi, I'm new...Install rant...grrrrrr

Truth be told, Dish was our 1st choice but couldn't reach all 3 birds.
The VoOm part of VoOm (sans locals)is awesome, though.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Mike500 <Mike500.17zvla@n...> wrote:
>
> That's why VOOM is doomed. I only install DirecTV HD. I don't even
> install Dish HD. Too many problems!!
>
>
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