[VOOM] WHY VOOM?

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johnnywaco2000

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Having had DirecTV and HDTV programming for a few years I am about to
call it a bust and declare that High Definition programming in America is
dead. DirecTV offers very little in HD programming. The HD Discovery
Channel is comprised of the same re-runs over and over again. Their HD Net
Movies are usually pitiful examples of movie-making, with the same rre-runs
over and over again. The other HD channels seem to be nothing more than
sports or trash programming. Showtime HD is a joke, so I just cancelled it.
HBO fairly good if you can get around the sports and sex trash specials.
VOOM supposedly offers about 30 HD movie channels, even a horror movie
channel. But nobody seems to know much about VOOM and cannot answer
my questions. The Sears outlets near my home have and sell VOOM but, so
far, don't even know how to set it up and can't even receive it in their show
rooms.
I have called VOOM outlets several times and, so far, nobody can even
answer one single question of mine, such as: DOES VOOM BROADCAST
LETTERBOXED PROGRMMING, ESPECIALLY WITH MOVIES? I am a
letteerboxing aficionado. I love wide screen movies.
Huh?
Can anyone answer these questions?
How does VOOM work with TiVo -- or does it? I currently have a Hughes
DirecTV TiVo unit and know that you ordinarily can't record HD on a DVR, but
I am at my wit's end with the failure known as High Definition Programming.






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Sears is probably the worst possible choice of outlets. 1-800-GET-VOOM will
get you some answers but prepared to not get good, accurate answers to any
technical questions. The CSR's are courteous but this is not their forte.
You have the ability in the systems setting page of a Voom receiver to set
letterbox, etc. However the source material may preclude that. I haven't
played with that too much since I got my system setup since I am satisfied
that I have filled as much of the screen as possible without stretching the
content.
I don't know what you mean by Showtime HD being a joke. PQ or content?
Anyway, IMHO HD is far from a failure, but as with any new technology, there
are wrinkles that need to be worked out. VOOM offers the most content, and
the system, once installed, works very well for most of us most of the time.
Recording HD has some technical and copyright issues that have not been
worked out yet.
You may be dissatisfied anyway with the HD content since you seem to be very
critical. Since the investment is minimal why not try it and draw your own
conclusion.
----- Original Message -----
From: "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@aol.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: [VOOM] WHY VOOM?


>
>
> Having had DirecTV and HDTV programming for a few years I am about to
> call it a bust and declare that High Definition programming in America is
> dead. DirecTV offers very little in HD programming. The HD Discovery
> Channel is comprised of the same re-runs over and over again. Their HD

Net
> Movies are usually pitiful examples of movie-making, with the same

rre-runs
> over and over again. The other HD channels seem to be nothing more than
> sports or trash programming. Showtime HD is a joke, so I just cancelled

it.
> HBO fairly good if you can get around the sports and sex trash specials.
> VOOM supposedly offers about 30 HD movie channels, even a horror movie
> channel. But nobody seems to know much about VOOM and cannot answer
> my questions. The Sears outlets near my home have and sell VOOM but, so
> far, don't even know how to set it up and can't even receive it in their

show
> rooms.
> I have called VOOM outlets several times and, so far, nobody can even
> answer one single question of mine, such as: DOES VOOM BROADCAST
> LETTERBOXED PROGRMMING, ESPECIALLY WITH MOVIES? I am a
> letteerboxing aficionado. I love wide screen movies.
> Huh?
> Can anyone answer these questions?
> How does VOOM work with TiVo -- or does it? I currently have a Hughes
> DirecTV TiVo unit and know that you ordinarily can't record HD on a DVR,

but
> I am at my wit's end with the failure known as High Definition

Programming.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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[VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Grodner" <bruceg@h...> wrote:
You may be dissatisfied anyway with the HD content since you seem to be
very critical. Since the investment is minimal why not try it and draw your own
conclusion.
+++++++++++++++++
Disappointed, not critical!
I have thought of simply turning off my HD receiver and try it again in about
ten years -- when the rest of the country catches up.
I often check the VOOM programming shedules and it seems fine to me. It's
just that when I would call around and ask these questions, all I received was
a "Duh . . . "
Will I be disappointed with VOOM?
I don't watch local or network programming. B-o-r-i-n-g!
No more news shows.
Lots of movies! Movies! Movies! Movies!
How does a DVR differentiate between high def and standard def when you
are recording? The usual way? My high def receiver picks up channels my
standard def TiVo unit cannot. Of course, those channels are high def.
However, I currently need two receivers -- one for HD and one for standard
def. How will this work if I get VOOM?







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[VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?

Did you try voom.com ? or calling VOOM ?
Most of those are simple questions, we as a group could answer but it
would be better if you spoke to someone @ VOOM not Sears.
Hope you join VOOM


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@a...> wrote:
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Grodner" <bruceg@h...> wrote:
> You may be dissatisfied anyway with the HD content since you seem

to be
> very critical. Since the investment is minimal why not try it and

draw your own
> conclusion.
> +++++++++++++++++
> Disappointed, not critical!
> I have thought of simply turning off my HD receiver and try it

again in about
> ten years -- when the rest of the country catches up.
> I often check the VOOM programming shedules and it seems fine to

me. It's
> just that when I would call around and ask these questions, all I

received was
> a "Duh . . . "
> Will I be disappointed with VOOM?
> I don't watch local or network programming. B-o-r-i-n-g!
> No more news shows.
> Lots of movies! Movies! Movies! Movies!
> How does a DVR differentiate between high def and standard def when

you
> are recording? The usual way? My high def receiver picks up

channels my
> standard def TiVo unit cannot. Of course, those channels are high

def.
> However, I currently need two receivers -- one for HD and one for

standard
> def. How will this work if I get VOOM?






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[VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?

I recently went to VOOM after 8 years!!! with Dish, and I couldn't be
happier. Their HD channel lineup is great: where else can you see a
Amarcord in HD:) Yes, they are shown in widescreen (unless the
original is shot in 4x3). Give them a try, you should be happier than
with DirecTV (although VOOM doesn not have a HD DVR).

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@a...> wrote:
>
> Having had DirecTV and HDTV programming for a few years I am about to
> call it a bust and declare that High Definition programming in

America is
> dead. DirecTV offers very little in HD programming. The HD Discovery
> Channel is comprised of the same re-runs over and over again. Their

HD Net
> Movies are usually pitiful examples of movie-making, with the same

rre-runs
> over and over again. The other HD channels seem to be nothing more

than
> sports or trash programming. Showtime HD is a joke, so I just

cancelled it.
> HBO fairly good if you can get around the sports and sex trash specials.
> VOOM supposedly offers about 30 HD movie channels, even a horror movie
> channel. But nobody seems to know much about VOOM and cannot answer
> my questions. The Sears outlets near my home have and sell VOOM

but, so
> far, don't even know how to set it up and can't even receive it in

their show
> rooms.
> I have called VOOM outlets several times and, so far, nobody can even
> answer one single question of mine, such as: DOES VOOM BROADCAST
> LETTERBOXED PROGRMMING, ESPECIALLY WITH MOVIES? I am a
> letteerboxing aficionado. I love wide screen movies.
> Huh?
> Can anyone answer these questions?
> How does VOOM work with TiVo -- or does it? I currently have a Hughes
> DirecTV TiVo unit and know that you ordinarily can't record HD on a

DVR, but
> I am at my wit's end with the failure known as High Definition

Programming.





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[VOOM] re: WHY VOOM?

VOOM does not broadcast all movies as they were
originally made. 2.35:1 and 1.33:1 movies do not get
broadcast in their native aspect ration; everything is
either downsized or upsized to 1.78:1. This is a
point of contention with many home theater and movie
buffs. I guess VOOM was more worried about having
complaints regarding letterbox bars on widescreen sets
than delivering the content as the director intended.

Shubb
Wirtz, VA

Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:24:11 -0000
From: "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@aol.com>
Subject: WHY VOOM?


Having had DirecTV and HDTV programming for a few
years I am about to call it a bust and declare that
High Definition programming in America is dead.
DirecTV offers very little in HD programming. The HD
Discovery Channel is comprised of the same re-runs
over and over again. Their HD Net Movies are usually
pitiful examples of movie-making, with the same
re-runs over and over again. The other HD channels
seem to be nothing more than sports or trash
programming. Showtime HD is a joke, so I just
canceled it. HBO fairly good if you can get around
the sports and sex trash specials. VOOM supposedly
offers about 30 HD movie channels, even a horror movie
channel. But nobody seems to know much about VOOM and
cannot answer my questions. The Sears outlets near my
home have and sell VOOM but, so
far, don't even know how to set it up and can't even
receive it in their show rooms. I have called VOOM
outlets several times and, so far, nobody can even
answer one single question of mine, such as: DOES
VOOM BROADCAST LETTERBOXED PROGRAMMING, ESPECIALLY
WITH MOVIES? I am a letterboxing aficionado. I love
wide screen movies. Huh? Can anyone answer these
questions? How does VOOM work with TiVo -- or does
it? I currently have a Hughes DirecTV TiVo unit and
know that you ordinarily can't record HD on a DVR, but
I am at my wit's end with the failure known as High
Definition Programming.



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Re: [VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?

VOOM is a big proponent of showing movies in their original aspect
ratio, at least on their exclusive channels. I can't speak for HBO,
Cinemax, and the like though.

greatermac wrote:

>
> I recently went to VOOM after 8 years!!! with Dish, and I couldn't be
> happier. Their HD channel lineup is great: where else can you see a
> Amarcord in HD:) Yes, they are shown in widescreen (unless the
> original is shot in 4x3). Give them a try, you should be happier than
> with DirecTV (although VOOM doesn not have a HD DVR).
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Having had DirecTV and HDTV programming for a few years I am about to
> > call it a bust and declare that High Definition programming in

> America is
> > dead. DirecTV offers very little in HD programming. The HD Discovery
> > Channel is comprised of the same re-runs over and over again. Their

> HD Net
> > Movies are usually pitiful examples of movie-making, with the same

> rre-runs
> > over and over again. The other HD channels seem to be nothing more

> than
> > sports or trash programming. Showtime HD is a joke, so I just

> cancelled it.
> > HBO fairly good if you can get around the sports and sex trash specials.
> > VOOM supposedly offers about 30 HD movie channels, even a horror movie
> > channel. But nobody seems to know much about VOOM and cannot answer
> > my questions. The Sears outlets near my home have and sell VOOM

> but, so
> > far, don't even know how to set it up and can't even receive it in

> their show
> > rooms.
> > I have called VOOM outlets several times and, so far, nobody can even
> > answer one single question of mine, such as: DOES VOOM BROADCAST
> > LETTERBOXED PROGRMMING, ESPECIALLY WITH MOVIES? I am a
> > letteerboxing aficionado. I love wide screen movies.
> > Huh?
> > Can anyone answer these questions?
> > How does VOOM work with TiVo -- or does it? I currently have a Hughes
> > DirecTV TiVo unit and know that you ordinarily can't record HD on a

> DVR, but
> > I am at my wit's end with the failure known as High Definition

> Programming.
>
>
>
>
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[VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?

In the beginning VOOM was not showing things in OAR.
But has since changed it's position, although they cant or wont go
back and re transfer the HD stuff to OAR, all things going forward
will be transfer to HD perserving the OAR.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, David Lay <dlayphoto@s...> wrote:
> VOOM is a big proponent of showing movies in their original aspect
> ratio, at least on their exclusive channels. I can't speak for

HBO,
> Cinemax, and the like though.
>
> greatermac wrote:
>
> >
> > I recently went to VOOM after 8 years!!! with Dish, and I

couldn't be
> > happier. Their HD channel lineup is great: where else can you see

a
> > Amarcord in HD:) Yes, they are shown in widescreen (unless the
> > original is shot in 4x3). Give them a try, you should be happier

than
> > with DirecTV (although VOOM doesn not have a HD DVR).
> >
> > --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@a...>

wrote:
> > >
> > > Having had DirecTV and HDTV programming for a few years I am

about to
> > > call it a bust and declare that High Definition programming in

> > America is
> > > dead. DirecTV offers very little in HD programming. The HD

Discovery
> > > Channel is comprised of the same re-runs over and over again.

Their
> > HD Net
> > > Movies are usually pitiful examples of movie-making, with the

same
> > rre-runs
> > > over and over again. The other HD channels seem to be nothing

more
> > than
> > > sports or trash programming. Showtime HD is a joke, so I just

> > cancelled it.
> > > HBO fairly good if you can get around the sports and sex trash

specials.
> > > VOOM supposedly offers about 30 HD movie channels, even a

horror movie
> > > channel. But nobody seems to know much about VOOM and cannot

answer
> > > my questions. The Sears outlets near my home have and sell VOOM

> > but, so
> > > far, don't even know how to set it up and can't even receive it

in
> > their show
> > > rooms.
> > > I have called VOOM outlets several times and, so far, nobody

can even
> > > answer one single question of mine, such as: DOES VOOM

BROADCAST
> > > LETTERBOXED PROGRMMING, ESPECIALLY WITH MOVIES? I am a
> > > letteerboxing aficionado. I love wide screen movies.
> > > Huh?
> > > Can anyone answer these questions?
> > > How does VOOM work with TiVo -- or does it? I currently have a

Hughes
> > > DirecTV TiVo unit and know that you ordinarily can't record HD

on a
> > DVR, but
> > > I am at my wit's end with the failure known as High Definition

> > Programming.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

------
> > *Yahoo! Groups Links*
> >
> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM/
> >
> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?

subject=Unsubscribe>
> >
> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
> >
> >






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Re: [VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?

There is no dVR....yet. So I don't know how it will work. The closest clue
was posted by Robert earlier today and had a link to get to it. VOOM's
explanation of what's going on at CES this week.
Watch this video to see Voom's "Whole House Solution" ..
http://www.satelliteguys.us/2005ces/bbdemo.wmv

----- Original Message -----
From: "johnnywaco2000" <JohnnyWaco@aol.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: [VOOM] Re: WHY VOOM?


>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Grodner" <bruceg@h...> wrote:
> You may be dissatisfied anyway with the HD content since you seem to be
> very critical. Since the investment is minimal why not try it and draw
> your own
> conclusion.
> +++++++++++++++++
> Disappointed, not critical!
> I have thought of simply turning off my HD receiver and try it again in
> about
> ten years -- when the rest of the country catches up.
> I often check the VOOM programming shedules and it seems fine to me. It's
> just that when I would call around and ask these questions, all I received
> was
> a "Duh . . . "
> Will I be disappointed with VOOM?
> I don't watch local or network programming. B-o-r-i-n-g!
> No more news shows.
> Lots of movies! Movies! Movies! Movies!
> How does a DVR differentiate between high def and standard def when you
> are recording? The usual way? My high def receiver picks up channels my
> standard def TiVo unit cannot. Of course, those channels are high def.
> However, I currently need two receivers -- one for HD and one for standard
> def. How will this work if I get VOOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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