Where did TNT (138) channel go?

[jadiff]

Keyword: Nascar.

My thoughts exactly! I refused to sub to A Prime for it.....now this

 

[dennispap]

I just did a Dish chat to ask what happened to TNT channel. He said "the owners of the channel moved it to different packages." I told him i had the channel for 20 years, and he then gave me the Drama and Classics pack free for 24 months. If you have the flex pack and want TNT back or any of the other 8 channels in that pack, you can try a chat. it cant hurt.

 

[telstar_1]

It's not "the owners of channel" that assign its packaging, but rather the provider, based on factors of the ch's asking rate and offered volume discounting. Clearly TNT went up enough for charlie to bump it from larger basics packs to an add-on pack. It really doesn't have to have even been by a lot, with the way profit margins have thinned.

 

[Nebugeater]

It's not "the owners of channel" that assign its packaging, but rather the provider, based on factors of the ch's asking rate and offered volume discounting. Clearly TNT went up enough for charlie to bump it from larger basics packs to an add-on pack. It really doesn't have to have even been by a lot, with the way profit margins have thinned.

I'm not sure that is entirely true. I would think that channel placement is part of the contract negotiations to carry the channel, and it is, in fact, agreed to by both Dish and the channel owner at some level.

 

[n0qcu]

Well adding the Drama pack gave me the opportunity to lower my bill.
I dropped HBO & Cinamax

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[zippyfrog]

It looks like Dish has removed CNN from the Flex Pack yesterday. The programming cards still show it as being the flex pack, but the following link shows that it is no longer in the Flex Pack, and as you look at the comparison table on the website, it is no longer part of Flex.

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So in the past 6 months, Dish has removed TNT and CNN from the Flex Pack.

 

[John2021]

Where did TNT channel go?
Does somebody know?

Thanks

What package do you have... it's in the top 120 or higher. it's on channel 138 or 247 in some areas

 

[John2021]

Yes, I had TNT to watch the NASCAR race last weekend (June 29th), and this weekend it is gone. My flex bill with a few packages has ballooned to nearly $160! I've got to find something else. The biggest reason I have stayed is due to the long list of hard to find old movies on my DVR.

damm your getting hosed!!! it might be better going to a regular package. call in and threaten to cancel and see what they offer you...

 

[telstar_1]

It looks like Dish has removed CNN from the Flex Pack yesterday. The programming cards still show it as being the flex pack, but the following link shows that it is no longer in the Flex Pack, and as you look at the comparison table on the website, it is no longer part of Flex.

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

So in the past 6 months, Dish has removed TNT and CNN from the Flex Pack.

Maybe they're working on eliminating flex pack.

I'm not sure that is entirely true. I would think that channel placement is part of the contract negotiations to carry the channel, and it is, in fact, agreed to by both Dish and the channel owner at some level.

At least "as of old," programmers (ch's) usually insisted on distribution to a majority of a provider's subs, particularly with the more "basic" ch's, either as a mandatory condition of carriage or as preferred alternative to a high ala-carte ask. Like with cable, the majority of programmers colluded, er, mutually agreed, to demand terms that would compel providers to either avail them to the great majority of their subs or else be too expensive alacarte to offer at all. That was the game for a programmer- where is the pricing point where a provider will say it doesn't benefit from me anymore, that the satisfaction hit to subs from the ch's loss costs them less than ponying up more to keep it. Tying groups of ch's together (carry all or none) was a norm for programmers as well. Collectively the last thing any of them would have wanted was an alacarte paradigm where they'd be left off of most subs' lineups, even if they'd get more per sub. They needed their advertisers to see big eyeball #s.

Maybe DiSH's contractual obligation expired, or maybe it contained terms where the ch could be allowed to raise its per-sub ask but lose guaranteed mass-packaging. Certainly these days much is up for rethinking as cable nets' general viewership recedes. Some long-standing ch's may soon not survive being kept on even with no carriage pay. The rate a DiSH would be paying for the like of TNT these days could be quite low to where its making a raised ask because of its exclusivity for a handful of races could cause a DiSH to tell it it'll pay more but now only carry it in an added-cost subgroup, and then TNT agrees to that rather than lose it off of the provider altogether.