Which is better solid copper or copper-clad center conductor?

miguelaqui

miguelaqui

Thread Starter
SatelliteGuys Pro
Oct 14, 2004
1,002
27
I recently noticed that a lot of sat installers are now using sold copper center conducter cable....Is it any better?

When I did cable, they never used solid copper. I was told that the steel clad was less likely to kink and break.

I was just wondering if there was really a difference? Does one tend to lose less signal?
 
Last edited:
J

JohnH

Godfather of the Uplink Reports
Oct 5, 2003
3,013
1
Kansas City, Missouri
Solid copper loses less signal and carries the DC control signals better.
Kinking is a problem which comes with incorrect handling.
 
S

Smith P.

On Vacation
Oct 4, 2003
8,907
1
Bay Area, CA
For RF part doesn't matter ( skin effect ), but from mechanical and DC loss standpoints solid copper vs steel center works in opposite directions. For long run aerial installation second preferrable.
 
stone phillips420

stone phillips420

On Vacation
Oct 20, 2004
3,360
2
earth
i recently got a box of wire from sadoun
waiting for it to arrive
here what i bought
JVI Trunk Millennium Dual RG6 Coax Cable without Ground - 500' REEL (Professional Series)
 
miguelaqui

miguelaqui

Thread Starter
SatelliteGuys Pro
Oct 14, 2004
1,002
27
Isn't that JVI more Chinese cable?

I would feel bad buying Chinese made cable; I grew up near a Times Fiber factory.

I hate seeing that Chinese stuff taking over!!! I really try to get TFC or Commscope (VEXTRA)...I haven't seen Trilogy in a while.
, used to see it all the time
 
stone phillips420

stone phillips420

On Vacation
Oct 20, 2004
3,360
2
earth
i currently have commscope rg11 i hate it, wires way to stiff i want wire that can bend.
 
SimpleSimon

SimpleSimon

SatelliteGuys Master
Supporting Founder
Feb 29, 2004
5,692
3
Florissant, CO
I have found NO difference between the two on any install.

Solid copper WILL carry more DC current, but that's only relevant in certain LONG run fronge cases.

What I HAVE found is that the solid copper that we're getting has inconsistent outer diameter, making fitting install difficult.
 
miguelaqui

miguelaqui

Thread Starter
SatelliteGuys Pro
Oct 14, 2004
1,002
27
webbydude said:
Dude...what type of RG-11 is NOT stiff? LOL
The really cheap kind; Chinese 40% shielding.

If he has the underground, it is really stiff because it has that extra thick jacket on it.
 
stone phillips420

stone phillips420

On Vacation
Oct 20, 2004
3,360
2
earth
webbydude said:
Dude...what type of RG-11 is NOT stiff? LOL
i know i bought digicon connections plus rg11 tool never could figure it out, neither could dtv dish or comcast techs so i had to settle for rg11 crimp on connectors got sick of them
so i shall try rg6 with good connectors
 
Last edited:
Claude Greiner

Claude Greiner

SatelliteGuys Master
Supporting Founder
Sep 8, 2003
13,225
3,776
Detroit - The Paris of the Midwest
Solid copper is more flexable and will carry a signal better. A matter of fact I have used it and noticed a slightly better performance.

But for an enduser point of view, there is no difference at all! Copper Clad Steel is simply cheaper!
 
mdonnelly

mdonnelly

Supporting Founder
Supporting Founder
Aug 26, 2004
8,132
2,884
Mustang, OK
I agree. I was taught that electrons traveled on the surface of the wire. The core material shouldn't be a big factor in conductivity.
 
miguelaqui

miguelaqui

Thread Starter
SatelliteGuys Pro
Oct 14, 2004
1,002
27
stone phillips420 said:
i know i bought digicon connections plus rg11 tool never could figure it out, neither could dtv dish or comcast techs so i had to settle for rg11 crimp on connectors got sick of them
so i shall try rg6 with good connectors
Really??? What was so difficult??
 
Jim5506

Jim5506

SatelliteGuys Master
Pub Member / Supporter
Lifetime Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
7,776
2,711
Lubbock, Texas
mdonnelly said:
I agree. I was taught that electrons traveled on the surface of the wire. The core material shouldn't be a big factor in conductivity.
I was afraid to mention that.

I thought they might have changed Physics in the last 40 years.
 
stone phillips420

stone phillips420

On Vacation
Oct 20, 2004
3,360
2
earth
miguelaqui said:
Really??? What was so difficult??
it seemed to me it was a 2 piece fitting but after crimped on the cable where ya spin to connect coax to lnb or switch or ird was stuck it wouldnt budge so all ya could do was spin actually coax instead of spinning fitting
ps i didnt mean to buy china wire:)
i bought what sadoun carried never had a problem with sadoun great service
by no means am i the best at labor but i like to think im average to me the rg11 and dgicon fittings were made for rocket scientist oh wait that nasa:)
they dont seem to bright lately
when i get wire im gonna have a lot of fun with new 8 port and 12 port wall plates
 
miguelaqui

miguelaqui

Thread Starter
SatelliteGuys Pro
Oct 14, 2004
1,002
27
stone phillips420 said:
it seemed to me it was a 2 piece fitting but after crimped on the cable where ya spin to connect coax to lnb or switch or ird was stuck it wouldnt budge so all ya could do was spin actually coax instead of spinning fitting
ps i didnt mean to buy china wire:)
i bought what sadoun carried never had a problem with sadoun great service
by no means am i the best at labor but i like to think im average to me the rg11 and dgicon fittings were made for rocket scientist oh wait that nasa:)
they dont seem to bright lately
when i get wire im gonna have a lot of fun with new 8 port and 12 port wall plates
I have heard that complaint about Digicons in general....once compressed the nut will not spin..some people call it "freezing up"
I love Digicon and never have had any trouble with them....but, they are made in Taiwan..I think. SNS are made in USA.
 
stone phillips420

stone phillips420

On Vacation
Oct 20, 2004
3,360
2
earth
i bought the jvi wire from sadoun
thomas and betts snap and seal connectors from e-b**
 

Similar threads

SpencerCat
Replies
8
Views
1K
SpencerCat
SpencerCat
D
Replies
10
Views
2K
abricko
abricko

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Total: 0, Members: 0, Guests: 0)

Latest posts

Top