YouTube TV Drops Disney’s ABC, ESPN and Other Networks After Two Sides Fail to Reach New Deal

I tried to get the credit, but it says it will be applied against my next bill.

Since I wont have a next bill until the matter is resolved, I assume I wont see it. No big deal I dont suppose, but not really helpful for the two weeks I have missed because of it.
Correct, it's applied to the Next bill, not the current bill ... you also don't get it if your Paused.

If this is not resolved by Mid Dec, I may have to Pause my account and use another so I can have espn for the College Football Playoffs.
 
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Hmm, I thought I read that you couldn't use a Mobile browser ...

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Did you get your 2nd email telling you to go ahead and claim it yet ?
I figure, I'll wait a few days, it's been 1 already, how long is a few to them, I don't know, but I did get the first email that said in it there would be a 2nd email coming.
FWIW...my second email came in 5 hours after the first email, yesterday.

Email or not, you could go to YouTube
and claim it.
 
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FWIW...my second email came in 5 hours after the first email, yesterday.

Email or not, you could go to YouTube
and claim it.
Ok, you got the second email ...
Thats good to know.
Did it say anything other than go to your account and claim it ?

If it's no more than that, I don't know why they wanted you to wait for the 2nd email ????
 
Ok, you got the second email ...
Thats good to know.
Did it say anything other than go to your account and claim it ?

If it's no more than that, I don't know why they wanted you to wait for the 2nd email ????
If you click on on the link that I sent, you can claim it. tv.youtube.com/settings/service_updates

Here's the email:
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We've been working in good faith to negotiate a deal with Disney that pays them fairly for their content and returns their programming to YouTube TV. We know it's been disappointing to lose Disney content, and we want you to know we deeply appreciate your patience. In light of the disruption, we're offering our subscribers a $20 credit.

To redeem your credit, please go to the 'Updates' tab in Membership Settings using your web browser, and follow the prompts. Once complete, this discount will be applied to your next bill for YouTube TV.

We hope YouTube TV continues to be your service of choice, but we understand some of our members may want to cancel their subscriptions. As always, family managers have the ability to pause or cancel anytime.

We will keep negotiating with Disney to restore their channels on YouTube TV. In the meantime, thanks for your continued membership.

‌Sincerely,
The YouTube TV team
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we canceled our YTTV acct.. they offered us 21 days free.. you figure they could have given us a month. since there's no ESPN now it's not even worth entertaining the thought of going back along with the other few missing channels that we watch...
 
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If you click on on the link that I sent, you can claim it. tv.youtube.com/settings/service_updates

Here's the email:
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We've been working in good faith to negotiate a deal with Disney that pays them fairly for their content and returns their programming to YouTube TV. We know it's been disappointing to lose Disney content, and we want you to know we deeply appreciate your patience. In light of the disruption, we're offering our subscribers a $20 credit.

To redeem your credit, please go to the 'Updates' tab in Membership Settings using your web browser, and follow the prompts. Once complete, this discount will be applied to your next bill for YouTube TV.

We hope YouTube TV continues to be your service of choice, but we understand some of our members may want to cancel their subscriptions. As always, family managers have the ability to pause or cancel anytime.

We will keep negotiating with Disney to restore their channels on YouTube TV. In the meantime, thanks for your continued membership.

‌Sincerely,
The YouTube TV team
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Ok, so after reading your email ... there really was no reason for You Tube TV to add the portion about a follow up email will be sent in a few days ...

Thanks Altitudinous 👍
 
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A good analysis on why this blackout is exactly what ABC/Disney was planning on all along, as well as how we're now in cable 2.0:

My parents are talking about switching to Fubo/Hulu+Live, but they don't want to pay the higher price. Sounds like they are going to pay either way if they want ESPN, which my mom definitely does want.
 
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A good analysis on why this blackout is exactly what ABC/Disney was planning on all along, as well as how we're now in cable 2.0:

Doesn't this sound like a Monopoly ?

I've been saying all along that Disney has no desire to come to an agreement, the longer this goes on, the more people move off of YTTV and on to other options, most likely Disney ... so its a win win for them and no desire to ever end it.

I like YTTV very well, but there will come a time when I will need espn, unfortunately.
I won't get Disney, just for the ABC and ESPN, I'll go another route ...
 
Report: YouTube TV demanding lowest rates for Disney of all pay TV distributors



"According to Puck's sports media correspondent John Ourand, YouTube TV is demanding rates from Disney that are lower than the three other largest pay TV distributors in the country: Comcast, Charter, and DirecTV. In fact, Disney has reportedly agreed to provide YouTube TV, currently the fourth-largest pay TV distributor, with rates equal to those of the three largest distributors, but YouTube TV is insisting on "a better rate," per Ourand.

Should Disney capitulate and give YouTube TV a better price than the other three distributors, Disney's prior carriage agreements with Comcast, Charter, and DirecTV would almost certainly trigger "Most Favored Nations" clauses within those contracts. As a result, Disney would be forced to offer the same lower rates to the three other distributors."
 
Report: YouTube TV demanding lowest rates for Disney of all pay TV distributors



"According to Puck's sports media correspondent John Ourand, YouTube TV is demanding rates from Disney that are lower than the three other largest pay TV distributors in the country: Comcast, Charter, and DirecTV. In fact, Disney has reportedly agreed to provide YouTube TV, currently the fourth-largest pay TV distributor, with rates equal to those of the three largest distributors, but YouTube TV is insisting on "a better rate," per Ourand.

Should Disney capitulate and give YouTube TV a better price than the other three distributors, Disney's prior carriage agreements with Comcast, Charter, and DirecTV would almost certainly trigger "Most Favored Nations" clauses within those contracts. As a result, Disney would be forced to offer the same lower rates to the three other distributors."
Well Im pretty sure YTTV is now the largest supplier of content? I guess thats up to them. It will tell you what will happen in the future, as so many channels controlled by so few companies.

This is a classic antitrust 101!
 
Doesn't this sound like a Monopoly ?
How though?

Disney owns a group of channels, so do other media companies with their own specific groups of channels.

Other providers offer the Disney channels besides Hulu/Fubo, heck, of all of the major video providers, YTTV is likely the only one that doesnt at the moment.

I dont particularly like the ESPN channels being off of YTTV at the moment, and both seem to be playing hardball, but I dont really see anything sinister about it. Not yet anyway. These disputes happen to nearly all providers, they generally resolve themselves fairly quickly (some more than others).
 
How though?

Disney owns a group of channels, so do other media companies with their own specific groups of channels.

Other providers offer the Disney channels besides Hulu/Fubo, heck, of all of the major video providers, YTTV is likely the only one that doesnt at the moment.

I dont particularly like the ESPN channels being off of YTTV at the moment, and both seem to be playing hardball, but I dont really see anything sinister about it. Not yet anyway. These disputes happen to nearly all providers, they generally resolve themselves fairly quickly (some more than others).
The problem is we do not know what Hulu/Fubo (of which Disney owns 70%) pays. If they are giving themselves a better price, then I would call that self-dealing and say it is monopolistic. If not, then it would at most be self-preferential because Hulu/Fubo aren't going to have a carriage dispute like other competitors. I'd guess the latter. Disney's lawyers are smart enough to avoid the appearance of being a monopoly, plus they want the money to pay for all the sports.
 
How though?

Disney owns a group of channels, so do other media companies with their own specific groups of channels.

Other providers offer the Disney channels besides Hulu/Fubo, heck, of all of the major video providers, YTTV is likely the only one that doesnt at the moment.

I dont particularly like the ESPN channels being off of YTTV at the moment, and both seem to be playing hardball, but I dont really see anything sinister about it. Not yet anyway. These disputes happen to nearly all providers, they generally resolve themselves fairly quickly (some more than others).
No its antitrust actually, here look.


Antitrust laws are a set of regulations designed to promote fair competition and prevent monopolistic practices that could harm consumers through practices like price-fixing, illegal mergers, and predatory pricing. The main federal laws in the United States are the Sherman Act, the Clayton Act, and the Federal Trade Commission Act. These laws aim to ensure a competitive marketplace where consumers benefit from lower prices and higher-quality products and services.
 
No its antitrust actually, here look.


Antitrust laws are a set of regulations designed to promote fair competition and prevent monopolistic practices that could harm consumers through practices like price-fixing, illegal mergers, and predatory pricing. The main federal laws in the United States are the Sherman Act, the Clayton Act, and the Federal Trade Commission Act. These laws aim to ensure a competitive marketplace where consumers benefit from lower prices and higher-quality products and services.
it's really not. there are serveral players in the space and price fixing is not occurring. Courts don't deal with emotional reactions ("this feels like a monopoly") and there are a series of checkboxes that need to be met before something rises to this level. Everything is on the up and up here. Two companies arguing over the cost of goods and services is exactly how the system is designed to operate.

The problem is we do not know what Hulu/Fubo (of which Disney owns 70%) pays. If they are giving themselves a better price, then I would call that self-dealing and say it is monopolistic.
They can't - or they would have to charge Comcast, Spectrum, et al the same price. The difference is Disney is just moving money between departments here. The bigger issue would be if Disney says we're charging you $10/sub for this service, but DTC we charge customers $5. That would be self-dealing and undercutting, but again, Disney can charge whatever it thinks the market can bear and providers can pay whatever they feel is fair. That's capitalism.
 
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They can't - or they would have to charge Comcast, Spectrum, et al the same price. The difference is Disney is just moving money between departments here. The bigger issue would be if Disney says we're charging you $10/sub for this service, but DTC we charge customers $5. That would be self-dealing and undercutting, but again, Disney can charge whatever it thinks the market can bear and providers can pay whatever they feel is fair. That's capitalism.
The first sentence seems to contradict the last sentence, or at least that is how I read it. In any case, you hit on the bigger issue which is the DTC sports play they have with ESPN Unlimited.
 
The first sentence seems to contradict the last sentence, or at least that is how I read it. In any case, you hit on the bigger issue which is the DTC sports play they have with ESPN Unlimited.
With the price of ESPN unlimited being well known, one would think that if it was vastly under what they are charging the providers we would have found that out already.
 
Well who has more power....a company that's owns just one of those 3 choices or if 3 companies each own one? They have more power controlling more content.
 
With the price of ESPN unlimited being well known, one would think that if it was vastly under what they are charging the providers we would have found that out already.
I don't necessarily think that is what really matters to Disney. What matters is whether people (sports fans) will be more willing to pay $30 for ESPN Unlimited than to pay $85 for YTTV if almost everything they watch is sports (most of which is on ESPN/ABC) -- in addition to the Peacock, Prime, etc. subscriptions that they need to see "all the games" anyway. That is why I think that DTC is probably what matters to Disney in this world of shrinking linear TV subs.

If they can get people to drop YTTV (and Spectrum, Cox, Comcast, etc.) and sign up for ESPN Unlimited, that is the best thing long-term for Disney.
 

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