Any progress between MLB and E*?

I, too, had those problems at times. I have a very fast computer and more than enough bandwith speed for smooth streaming so it was really frustrating. Then, MLB.TV came to the Roku box and everything changed. It worked flawlessly. I highly recommend you pick one up. You'll be happy you did. :)

I was just going to ask how the MLB.TV worked on the ROKU. I just finally ordered one(HD version, with no N wireless), and will connect it via HDMI, and get the ethernet feed via Belkin Powerline Adapter.

I can't find out any cost information either on the website. Like it is some sort of secret or something. Could you PM me the cost of a year/month/team?/etc... for MLB.TV, or just point me to aplace where they list the info.

The MLB website is pretty cryptic about it for some reason.
 
Just wondering if anyone has heard anything regarding the possibility of any movement between MLB and E* regarding MLB EI and/or MLB Network for 2010? I suspect I know the answer, and you don't need to tell me all your reasons why E* shouldn't offer it...just curious if anything has progressed.

Perhaps E* could afford MLB Exta innings and MLB network if they didn't offer obscure sports like cricket and even IMHO soccer.
 
Yeah, I had MLB.TV last year and it was terrible! I just went ahead with the Gameday Audio broadcasts. If they get those problems straightened out though, I suppose Roku would be a nice alternative as it streams MLB.TV and goes straight to the TV rather than the computer.

MLB.Tv works great on my pc in hd, but it's even better now that i can watch it on my tv with my Roku.
 
From the price of the packages, I'm sure the cricket packages are profitable and soccer isn't as greedy as MLB.

Otra ves - if MLB was not so damn greedy (contract language with DirecTV), requiring $100,000,000 just to sit at the table, Charlie would be proud to play.

Even at $100 per sub, it would be probable (Charlie could charge $150 for the package and everybody wins), but not at $500 per sub.

Would you be willing to go in the red $60-75 million each year for the MLB package? NOT ME, NOT CHARLIE - BULLY FOR HIM!
 
I was just going to ask how the MLB.TV worked on the ROKU. I just finally ordered one(HD version, with no N wireless), and will connect it via HDMI, and get the ethernet feed via Belkin Powerline Adapter.

I can't find out any cost information either on the website. Like it is some sort of secret or something. Could you PM me the cost of a year/month/team?/etc... for MLB.TV, or just point me to aplace where they list the info.

The MLB website is pretty cryptic about it for some reason.

The cost for MLB.TV is $129.95 yearly or $19.95 per month. The yearly subscription covers 12 months from the time you subscribe, not just the regular season, so if you subscribe in June, you're good until next June, etc. There is no extra cost to view the games on the Roku. The Roku box will give you a code to enter on the MLB website that will link your box to your MLB account. After that, you can watch all the games through the box. The HD quality is OK, not spectacular. THe HD quality of the Amazon On Demand movies is excellent, so I know HD streaming via the box is capable of high quality. I hope MLB works out the kinks to make the PQ better for next season.

You can subscribe now: MLB.TV Premium + ESPN Insider Combo | MLB.com: Subscriptions or wait until the season starts. They may have better deals right before the season.
 
Would you guys please do the research and compare the companies Dish Network & Echostar to Liberty Media/Direc TV, Time Warner Corp., AT&T, Verizon, et al. The big talk for years among media folks is how long Charlie can continue to be competitive (the lack of MLB being one offering they CAN'T AFFORD, thereby hurting his competitiveness) before he has to sell or buy a really big media conglomerate. Even Charlie has admitted this in public many times because it is no secret to investors how small Dish is--as a company--compared to the media titans he competes with each day.

Charlie has been very open saying, "We feel we can be independent for at least a few more years." The proposed merge of Comcast and Disney had Ergan telling investors: "If that merger happens, we can't compete with that. Either I write a big check to someone, or someone writes a big check to me, and I'm on down the road." He is still the scrappy little competitor who often outwits his much larger competition. The proposed Comcast/NBC Universal merger is bad, most of all, to Dish, as the leverage Comcast/NBC Universal would have against pay TV providers would be unprecedented. Not even Disney would be an equal.

Which brings us to the point of why Dish doesn't have MLB IE: Dish Network would love to have it, but just can't afford it. But such decisions not to veer from the spreadsheet and not pay for MLB IE is exactly what keeps Dish a healthy company, and not one nearing going out of business. Look up the facts yourself, and you will see why Ergan himself openly admits his company's (Dish) disadvantage at competeting with the much bigger boys. BTW, Echostar is a small fry compared to Intelsat and AMC, etc. and in the last quarterly for Echostar, Charlie admitted his much smaller size and shallow pockets were a major reason why Echostar is not leasing its huge capacity. But that doesn't mean that Charlie is out for the count as he has outsmarted others before.
 
Would you guys please do the research and compare the companies Dish Network & Echostar to Liberty Media/Direc TV, Time Warner Corp., AT&T, Verizon, et al. The big talk for years among media folks is how long Charlie can continue to be competitive (the lack of MLB being one offering they CAN'T AFFORD, thereby hurting his competitiveness) before he has to sell or buy a really big media conglomerate. Even Charlie has admitted this in public many times because it is no secret to investors how small Dish is--as a company--compared to the media titans he competes with each day.

Charlie has been very open saying, "We feel we can be independent for at least a few more years." The proposed merge of Comcast and Disney had Ergan telling investors: "If that merger happens, we can't compete with that. Either I write a big check to someone, or someone writes a big check to me, and I'm on down the road." He is still the scrappy little competitor who often outwits his much larger competition. The proposed Comcast/NBC Universal merger is bad, most of all, to Dish, as the leverage Comcast/NBC Universal would have against pay TV providers would be unprecedented. Not even Disney would be an equal.

Which brings us to the point of why Dish doesn't have MLB IE: Dish Network would love to have it, but just can't afford it. But such decisions not to veer from the spreadsheet and not pay for MLB IE is exactly what keeps Dish a healthy company, and not one nearing going out of business. Look up the facts yourself, and you will see why Ergan himself openly admits his company's (Dish) disadvantage at competeting with the much bigger boys. BTW, Echostar is a small fry compared to Intelsat and AMC, etc. and in the last quarterly for Echostar, Charlie admitted his much smaller size and shallow pockets were a major reason why Echostar is not leasing its huge capacity. But that doesn't mean that Charlie is out for the count as he has outsmarted others before.

Dish has added over 415,000 subs over the last 2 1/2 quarters, they aren't going anywhere...
 
Lack of MLB on Dish is not any type of a problem.

It is a very small niche product (< 1% of subs, maybe 0.5%) that is highly overpriced.

It would be worrisome if Dish DID buy MLB - they would be pouring money down a rathole.
 
As much as I would love to see Dish get MLB, the blame falls squarely on Directv for driving the price up attempting to create a monopoly and MLB for enabling them to do so.
 
Dish has added over 415,000 subs over the last 2 1/2 quarters, they aren't going anywhere...

I never suggested Dish was "going anywhere" nor out of business. My point is that Dish cannot afford to pay for MLB IE without putting the company at risk for going out of business. Mr. Ergan's refusal to pay the huge fee for MLB IE and make a serious bid to take away NFL Sunday Ticket from Direc TV, is precisely why Dish isn't going out of business. The problem is that a lot of folks on this board think Dish has pockets as deep as Time Warner, Liberty Media, Comcast--heck even Direc TV by itself is a much larger far more deep pocketed company than Dish. I like Dish, but you have to accept that Dish is just too small to acquire MLB IE--and the very expensive MLB channel that must also be purchased along with IE--at the current rates. It's not a case of cheapness, but a case of shallow pockets. Dish is the small guy fighting among the giants, and is doing a pretty good job of keeping up, but it can't go forever without some change in Dish Network's size, either the result of a purchase or a sale which means Dish acquiring a company or selling itself to one still means Dish isn't "going anywhere." Only Charlie, a few years down the road, may be going "somewhere." :)
 
Perhaps E* could afford MLB Exta innings and MLB network if they didn't offer obscure sports like cricket and even IMHO soccer.

To the contrary, the "obscure" sports like cricket tournaments have a very strong and loyal following and have added subscribers to Dish over the years who otherwise may not have subscribed to pay-TV in the first place. And for years they were all Dish's to reap.

However, now cable and other pay-TV providers are playing catch-up to Dish on the "obscure" sports market, and a now offering cricket matches, etc. It's a lot like the internationals that helped Dish grow and reap subscribers who would never have subscribed to pay-TV if not for the voluminous internationals Dish offers, particularly Spanish language ones. Oh, yeah, and now all the other pay-TV providers are trying to offer the same internationals and market to Spanish speakers as Dish has been doing for years.

Why? Because they make quite a bit of $$$ for the trouble, not to mention the upgrade possibilities.
 
MLB.Tv works great on my pc in hd, but it's even better now that i can watch it on my tv with my Roku.
If I could only get MLB Network on the Roku, then I would be sold. I can do without Extra Innings, but really wish there was a way for E* to carry MLB Network by itself.
 
I came across this today: Sky Angel Adds MLB Network to National Platform

Sky Angel is now carrying MLB Network. Looking at Sky Angel and the type of demographic they are targeting, it appears that they would have fewer subscribers than Dish Network. How is it they can strike a deal with Dish Network to get MLB Network but Dish can't? I also see that they have MLB Network and don't carry EI.
 
I came across this today: Sky Angel Adds MLB Network to National Platform

Sky Angel is now carrying MLB Network. Looking at Sky Angel and the type of demographic they are targeting, it appears that they would have fewer subscribers than Dish Network. How is it they can strike a deal with Dish Network to get MLB Network but Dish can't? I also see that they have MLB Network and don't carry EI.

"Divine Intervention" ?:angel:
 
I came across this today: Sky Angel Adds MLB Network to National Platform

Sky Angel is now carrying MLB Network. Looking at Sky Angel and the type of demographic they are targeting, it appears that they would have fewer subscribers than Dish Network. How is it they can strike a deal with Dish Network to get MLB Network but Dish can't? I also see that they have MLB Network and don't carry EI.

because they are willing to pay the asking price to carry it and Dish isn't.
 
I came across this today: Sky Angel Adds MLB Network to National Platform

Sky Angel is now carrying MLB Network. Looking at Sky Angel and the type of demographic they are targeting, it appears that they would have fewer subscribers than Dish Network. How is it they can strike a deal with Dish Network to get MLB Network but Dish can't? I also see that they have MLB Network and don't carry EI.

Wow. I though that MLB's deal was that MLB Extra Innings was part of the deal. But apparently not with Sky Angel.
 
What I see that's interesting is that MLB network was made available without the extra innings package! Wasn't that the hold up according to dish?

That is what I always thought. I thought that in order to carry MLB Network, you had to also carry EI, and that is why Dish chose not to carry MLB Network. But seeing that EI isn't a necessity, I would love to see MLB Network added to the Dish Network lineup.
 

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