Carl B said:
All this 811 bashing amazes me. Yes, the marketing, sales, and logistics aspect of the 811 role-out were a disaster, but the product isn't. It has some new product bugs that appear to be readily fixable, but it is far superior to the other 2 Dish receivers I own, and the HD is awesome.
Frankly, I don't understand why people are so willing to cut Dish so much slack when it comes to the quality of their hardware. If you purchased a new cell phone that had to be power cycled after having a call dropped in the middle of a conversation would you just say no problem, it will be fixed at some future date. No, I think you'd be back at the store demanding another one. So why is it OK to say a couple of times a day you need to go and do a hard reset on the 811 to get it back after it freezes up?
The other issue is how long will it be before Dish does actually roll out any fixes? If Dish would post a list of known/verified problems and when they would be fixed it might be helpful but right now everyone is going on bline faith that Dish will eventually get things fixed. But look back at the 721 receiver, the problems that folks had with that box, how long it's taken to fix things and advertised features that still aren't in the product.
Sorry, but I don't agree with this let's just get it out the door attitude that Dish has fix things later that Dish has shown. Is it the engineers fault that the product shipped with so many bugs, probably not. They were told buy Charlie that they had to have the 811 out by a certain date (I heard this directly from one of the designers of the 811), which they did, bugs and all. Frankly, I don't care whos fault it was, I just expect products to be in better shape then what Dish has sold. As a former D* customers I never saw as many problems with the hardware from that camp as I have from E*. I think it would really help matters if Charlie licensed other manufactures to design/make Dish hardware. Let's get some friendly compitition going out there. Overall I liked Dish's programming and pricing, their hardware stinks!