i went out and really tightened everything but not to the point of over tightening the dish or motor. i put the dmx741 (not universal) and scanned 91. i was able to get spanish channels in c band but no cw despite putting in the symbol rates. it was neat being able to get anything but nothing on ku. what i would like to do is scrap the dmx and use the spitfire for ku and the best cband to put next to it. how far off would the cband need to be if i use a bracket or one supplied by a vendor to continue this experiment. what cband is the best (hopefully not the heaviest to avoid pulling down on the dish)? and what bracket or degree offset do i need to make. thanks guys for the info.