New Directv DVR

[alert5]

Hi All.

After many years of great DirecTiVo service, we are switching to the HR23. I ordered two HR23's from Amazon ($179 each) to replace our DirecTiVos. I realize the new DVRs will be considered leased equipment and I do not have a problem with that policy. We will miss MRV and all the nifty TiVo hacks, but are looking forward to the HD goodness.

As soon as the new DVRs arrive, I'll call DirecTV and schedule the replacement dish installation and negotiate the best package deal I can get.

My current, self-installed rooftop dish has two RG6 cables running to each DirecTiVo location. Depending on what the "professional" installer does, I guess we will need one or both of these cables for each HR23.

Best Regards

 

[joed32]

2 per DVR is correct.

 

[carney19]

2 per DVR is correct.

Unless the installer uses SWM Technology.

 

[goober22]

And just FYI, MRV is currently being tested on the HRxx series of HD/DVRs. You will see that roll out as soon as all the final bugs are done (hopefully within a month or 2).

 

[kbert]

Hi All.

After many years of great DirecTiVo service, we are switching to the HR23. I ordered two HR23's from Amazon ($179 each) to replace our DirecTiVos. I realize the new DVRs will be considered leased equipment and I do not have a problem with that policy. We will miss MRV and all the nifty TiVo hacks, but are looking forward to the HD goodness.

As soon as the new DVRs arrive, I'll call DirecTV and schedule the replacement dish installation and negotiate the best package deal I can get.

My current, self-installed rooftop dish has two RG6 cables running to each DirecTiVo location. Depending on what the "professional" installer does, I guess we will need one or both of these cables for each HR23.

Best Regards

Sounds like you've tired of waiting for the new DirecTiVo unit. I wonder what you've heard, if anything, that's discouraged you. Having been exposed to the cable company's SA and D*'s "Plus" HD DVRs in use by friends and neighbors I'm still holding out. If D* and TiVo have cancelled their plan for the new box promised for this fall I guess I'll have to go the HR2x route.

 

[sddtvtech]

Unless the installer uses SWM Technology.

more than likely, if the tech sees the two lines already there, he or she wont install a SWiM. however if the install is coming past Oct 13th, SWiM will be installed regardless.

 

[jdspencer]

When DirecTV turned off the DNS channels in the 80s (MPEG2) is when I gave up my HR10. Since I used that unit to solve network conflicts, this forced me to get another HR2x unit to use with my HR20 as I didn't want to wait for the new DirecTV HD TiVo..

Is the term "SWiM" the norm around here now?
IMHO, it is as bad as referencing DirecTV as D*.
Just sayingg!

 

[jtwex]

And just FYI, MRV is currently being tested on the HRxx series of HD/DVRs. You will see that roll out as soon as all the final bugs are done (hopefully within a month or 2).

For a non-Tivo user, what does MRV stand for & it's use?

Thanks.

 

[Rey]

For a non-Tivo user, what does MRV stand for & it's use?

Thanks.

multi room viewing. you can share recordings between 2 dvrs at different rooms or view the recordings of one dvr with a receiver at another room. for example an H21 can playback and delete a recording from your HR dvr.

 

[Jhon69]

Sounds like you've tired of waiting for the new DirecTiVo unit. I wonder what you've heard, if anything, that's discouraged you. Having been exposed to the cable company's SA and D*'s "Plus" HD DVRs in use by friends and neighbors I'm still holding out. If D* and TiVo have cancelled their plan for the new box promised for this fall I guess I'll have to go the HR2x route.

I have heard that now has been revised the new HD DirecTivo should appear in the 1st half of 2010.

 

[jtwex]

multi room viewing. you can share recordings between 2 dvrs at different rooms or view the recordings of one dvr with a receiver at another room. for example an H21 can playback and delete a recording from your HR dvr.

Thought I was already doing that unless that is only part of the CE program.


By the way, your Dolphins showed me something last week. Wasn't the outcome we wanted, but they played some great ball against a team & a man that is hard to beat with any time left on the clock.

 

[Rey]

Thought I was already doing that unless that is only part of the CE program.


By the way, your Dolphins showed me something last week. Wasn't the outcome we wanted, but they played some great ball against a team & a man that is hard to beat with any time left on the clock.

this is still only part of the ce program.
hopefully the fins can get on the right track tomorrow.

 

[MK-9]

multi room viewing. you can share recordings between 2 dvrs at different rooms or view the recordings of one dvr with a receiver at another room. for example an H21 can playback and delete a recording from your HR dvr.

They seemed to have skimmed this topic in our last tech meeting. So I didn't really get any details. Am I correct in the fact that the MVR is a SWiM only feature? Or will this work with the legacy systems as well?

 

[Jimbo]

They seemed to have skimmed this topic in our last tech meeting. So I didn't really get any details. Am I correct in the fact that the MVR is a SWiM only feature? Or will this work with the legacy systems as well?

MRV is NOT a SWM only application.

 

[webdog]

Is the term "SWiM" the norm around here now?
IMHO, it is as bad as referencing DirecTV as D*.
Just sayingg!

Check out the Slimline "dithering" youtube videos. One of their main techs calls it "SWiM" pretty much throughout the instructional video. I think if you work for DirecTV or D* (as shown above) then you probably pick up the "SWiM" jargon.

 

[Rey]

They seemed to have skimmed this topic in our last tech meeting. So I didn't really get any details. Am I correct in the fact that the MVR is a SWiM only feature? Or will this work with the legacy systems as well?

like jim said it's not an swm only thing. you might be thinking about the capability of running MRV through the swm instead of the Ethernet connection. it's another option D is working on for MRV but right now we're doing it by Ethernet.

 

[twizt3dsist3r]

Check out the Slimline "dithering" youtube videos. One of their main techs calls it "SWiM" pretty much throughout the instructional video. I think if you work for DirecTV or D* (as shown above) then you probably pick up the "SWiM" jargon.

SWiM is the official name of the technology, it is an acronym for Single Wire Multiswitch, so SWM, and the i is put there for pronunciation... its a D* endorsed name haha.... as to where d* became directv.... uhh yea... idk.... my guess is e* was short for echostar so someone just used d* to be the competitor... idk though...

and sorry i meant to quote the entire post including webdogs quote.

 

[jake14mw]

more than likely, if the tech sees the two lines already there, he or she wont install a SWiM. however if the install is coming past Oct 13th, SWiM will be installed regardless.

Can you explain more about this Oct 13th date? Is SWM supposed to be a standard part of installs after Oct 13th? Will that be only on new installs, or upgrades as well? If I already have the new dish, and want to add a DVR to a room that only has 1 line to it, will a SWM be installed for that? Thanks.

 

[Happy Camper]

As longtime TiVo fans, we finally broke down, retired our HR10-250, and went for all the MPEG 4 channels two years ago and got HR21s. My wife hated the DirecTV interface and has tenaciously hung on to her antique R10 unit. She is content with standard def and watches mostly local TV and regular 'cable' channels throughout the house on multiple TVs, transmitted through a modulator and activated with an RF remote. She can go to any one of nine televisions, turn on channel 17, and watch anything on her TiVo or current broadcast on DirecTV, a convenience for her and eliminating the need for me to install boxes in rooms she frequents, like her sewing room.

After being a confirmed TiVo lover and DirecTV interface hater for quite a while after the switch, I've now entered the TiVo Hall of Shame-I've actually come to prefer the DirecTV interface and menu. With the recent addition of the ability to switch between and buffer two channels at once, my biggest remaining objection to the DirecTV interface has been removed.

As Scott has said many times, you tend to prefer what you are used to, and there is a significant learning curve with new equipment. Still, I think you may actually grow to like your new DirecTV units.

If you really want to appreciate both TiVo AND DirecTV boxes, try the Verizon FIOS HD DVRs we have been experimenting with. "Awful" does not even to describe how incredibly bad, and limited, they are.

DirecTV customer service is terrible and some of their policies are pretty slimy, but their DVRs are very, very good.

 

[lern4483]

As longtime TiVo fans, we finally broke down, retired our HR10-250, and went for all the MPEG 4 channels two years ago and got HR21s. My wife hated the DirecTV interface and has tenaciously hung on to her antique R10 unit. She is content with standard def and watches mostly local TV and regular 'cable' channels throughout the house on multiple TVs, transmitted through a modulator and activated with an RF remote. She can go to any one of nine televisions, turn on channel 17, and watch anything on her TiVo or current broadcast on DirecTV, a convenience for her and eliminating the need for me to install boxes in rooms she frequents, like her sewing room.

After being a confirmed TiVo lover and DirecTV interface hater for quite a while after the switch, I've now entered the TiVo Hall of Shame-I've actually come to prefer the DirecTV interface and menu. With the recent addition of the ability to switch between and buffer two channels at once, my biggest remaining objection to the DirecTV interface has been removed.

As Scott has said many times, you tend to prefer what you are used to, and there is a significant learning curve with new equipment. Still, I think you may actually grow to like your new DirecTV units.

If you really want to appreciate both TiVo AND DirecTV boxes, try the Verizon FIOS HD DVRs we have been experimenting with. "Awful" does not even to describe how incredibly bad, and limited, they are.

DirecTV customer service is terrible and some of their policies are pretty slimy, but their DVRs are very, very good.

I would aggree that Direc dvrs are clunky and slow. The interface needs a facelift.
Not sure why in all these years the interface has not been given a jazy new look?

That said the Direc dvrs with the CE program does allow for some neat updates.
So, in short, yes the direc dvrs have grown on me.
Would I say they are great...Nope. Too slow.

However, if you ever try Dishes VIP722 Hd dvr its simply the cream of the crop.