Long DISH customer, changing to DIRECTV probably

[rocket69]

with dish the one dvr 2 tv is nice but if you need 2 tv's with hd then cost are high.

you could extend the hdmi like others with cat6 but in the end it will run you $100+

If you did the MVR with direct you will get one HDDVR and one HD at no extra cost. with that you can watch and pause any recording from the living room on the HD and also set up recordings from the HD but have no DVR service

If you pay the extra $100 you could have two hddvr with a tottal of 4 recordings at once. you could watch any recording from one or the other.

With direct the extra box is $6 for an HD dvr or any box as the DVR fee covers all dvr's

With dish extra its $10 or 17 each dvr as its not included in the dvr fee as the math dont ad up.

 

[KAB]

you could extend the hdmi like others with cat6 but in the end it will run you $100+

BALONEY! I just priced the materials from Monoprice to make a 60' run via Cat5 STP, $45.68. Cat 6 would be less than $10.00 more.

 

[peano]

So first step is to run cat6 through my walls to my bedroom. Second step is to get that adapter kit from monoprice, and that will allow me to run hdmi from my receiver in the living room through the cat6 to my tv via hdmi in my bedroom?

So then, when running in single mode..both tv's will be doing the same thing? So if I watch a prerecorded show in my bedroom, it will also show up in the living room?

When in single mode, does it screw up timers you previously set, so only one tuner can record at a time?

All correct. Single mode does not affect your timers.

 

[Liquidforce88]

Then hit the record button
Not true

Having to hit record to be able to pause, kind of defeats the purpose. Trust me whan I say I install these systems every day. Switching Dish customers are very upset with the loss of this function.

And I am sorry but you are restricted to 1 secondary receiver using the DVR at a time. Again I install these every day. Have not seen where more than one can access at a time.

You do not have the ability to go into the DVR menu and manage recording times and such. Yes you can delet a recording and set up a recording, but that is it.

Each system has it's advantages. I personally like Dishes solution. I can send the signal to several tv's, without extra receiver fee's. I can switch between dual and single mode as needed. I have Picture In Picture when I need it. It takes a little extra wireing, but I have HD on both TV's when I need it. Extrenal HD is great for storage. I have 6 tv's in my house and all of them have the ability to see each of my DVR's. For me it's just a much more flexible system.

 

[KKlare]

Confused by what you're telling me here. Are you saying I should run an HDMI cable from my receiver in the living room to the TV in my bedroom? I'd have to run it through walls, and it would be maybe 50-60 feet. If this was possible, what would this enable me to do? I'm not a very advanced DISH user, so speak to me like I'm a 6 year old

Using HDMI is preferred for the remote because coax would require 5 leads. The twisted pair solution requires 2 runs IIRC but may be cheaper per foot, requiring the conversion box. It will require heavier HDMI cables for more than say 35 feet, YMMV.

If you are willing to pay more monthly a second box (I do) only requires the satellite coax but there is no sharing except by disk. My two 722s share 9 HDDs on 1 TV--sometimes 4 satellite recordings and an OTA. My son's 622 generally doesn't need an HDD.

Originally Posted by KKlare
(2) You can take the recordings on a hard drive to a second 722-class or 211 receiver. Clearly 2 matching boxes.

Not exactly. You can not move EHD from a 612/622/722/922 to a 211 or vice verse. You can move between all the other non-211 receivers.

Why do you think I said MATCHING boxes? Perhaps you would have got it if I said 722-class or ELSE 211 receiverS.

-Ken

 

[KAB]

Why do you think I said MATCHING boxes? Perhaps you would have got it if I said 722-class or ELSE 211 receiverS.

-Ken

I don't know why you say MATCHING boxes. Those who might not know better might assume you mean only a 722 to a 722, or only a 612 to a 612.

 

[old corps]

All correct. Single mode does not affect your timers.

+1

And by leaving the TV2 coax hooked up you can always go to dual mode and suffer through SD on the 2nd TV if the need arises to have independent viewing.

Ed

 

[TG2]

receiver that's not a recevier but a DVR with a chaser?

I used MRV a lot when I had DirecTV. You can watch DVR 1 in room 1 and 2 at the same time. You can use all transport controls in room 2 and schedule and delete recordings (if room 2 is a receiver). 1 applies if the second room is a receiver (H2x for example), not a DVR (HR2x). If room 2 is a DVR, then you can pause live. A workaround for using just a receiver is to start recording on the room 1 DVR then chase it. If room 2 is a receiver, you can schedule recordings in room 1. If room 2 is a DVR, you can't schedule recordings in room 1.

look you nutters ... half way through this.. all I'm thinking is... this was an old cartoon about football play where at some point the announcer is explaining while arrows start going every which way imaginable.. and by the end.. nothing was understood!

Kinda something like this YouTube - crazy football play but in cartoon form.. lateral to lateral running this way, that way ... I'm surprised I could even follow the ball by the end..

(just poking a little fun)

 

[hvcomputech]

I have two HDTV's. One in the living room, one in the bedroom. I like the capability of my dual tuner DVR so I can record a show in the living room and finish watching it in my bedroom. However, it's down converting all the HD to SD when I watch it in my bedroom. What a waste of a beautiful Samsung LED HDTV.

With DirecTV's "whole home" service, I can record an HD show in the living room and then watch it IN HD in my bedroom. This is exactly what I want. I will be spending an extra $16 a month with DirecTV, but I think the $16 is worth it for the ability to watch my HD programs in my bedroom that I recorded in either my living room or my bedroom.

#1. Dish Network does not have this same capability that DirecTV has, correct?

#2. Are there any plans for Dish Network to release this capability in the near future?

#3. Did I get anything wrong, and is there any reason I should stay with Dish and not swap to DirecTV? I've been with Dish for around 7 years, paid my bill on time every month, and really like the service- but wasting my HD capabilities is really bothering me. (and yes, I know I can get an HD receiver for the bedroom with Dish, but I don't think I have the capability to start and finish programs in both rooms, I'd have to set separate timers)

#4. Comcast has similar capabilities to DirecTV, but my understanding is with Comcast, you can't pause live tv and set and delete recordings when you're not at the primary DVR ....DirecTV has a huge advantage compared to Comcast in this regard.

Any input regarding this would be well appreciated. I'm sure customer retention will try their best to keep me at Dish, but unless Dish has plans to release this capability soon, I don't see a reason to stay..

I don't understand what the big deal with the pause button is. I have never used it. Nothing is so important on tv that I would need to pause, even if I had to rush to the ?. I also don't understand why one would want to record four channels at the same time, with so many reruns and such. Who has the time to sit and watch each of those prerecorded channels? But that's me.

That said, with D* you also get video on demand, the ability to stream your DVR to your computer screen, plus the ability to see local weather without having to switch to the "wait while we download your selection" page and switching back to live tv again.

 

[lparsons21]

I don't understand what the big deal with the pause button is. I have never used it. Nothing is so important on tv that I would need to pause, even if I had to rush to the ?. I also don't understand why one would want to record four channels at the same time, with so many reruns and such. Who has the time to sit and watch each of those prerecorded channels? But that's me.

That said, with D* you also get video on demand, the ability to stream your DVR to your computer screen, plus the ability to see local weather without having to switch to the "wait while we download your selection" page and switching back to live tv again.

Recording 3 or 4 events at once most often comes into play the locals, 4 major broadcast channels. For me, there are quite a few nights where I want to record 3 of them, plus a sat only channel. Yes, the 'cable' type channels do rerun a lot, often just later the same night. But the broadcast channels seldom do that, usually doing reruns in later weeks or months. If I am following a story line, it is nice to have it in order.

E* also has VOD, although D*'s is better from what I read.

Are you sure you can stream the your HR to your computer? I knew you could do from computer to the HR, but not the other way around.

The weather on the 8's or whatever D* calls it is handy. Not something that would make me pick one service over the though.

 

[towboy123]

I though Dish and The Weather Channel were supposed to work a local weather channel to replace the short lived channel 213. The weather app on both the 922 and 722 are poor I was excited about this.

 

[Dah-Henny]

I though Dish and The Weather Channel were supposed to work a local weather channel to replace the short lived channel 213. The weather app on both the 922 and 722 are poor I was excited about this.

You're exactly right. It's coming in the summer of 2010.

 

[towboy123]

That's what I thought I guess we will have to wait until 2010

 

[Mr Tony]

you do realize its 2011 now

 

[towboy123]

Yes that was continuation of the the joke

 

[kurtdh]

I don't understand what the big deal with the pause button is. I have never used it. Nothing is so important on tv that I would need to pause, even if I had to rush to the ?. I also don't understand why one would want to record four channels at the same time, with so many reruns and such. Who has the time to sit and watch each of those prerecorded channels? But that's me.

That said, with D* you also get video on demand, the ability to stream your DVR to your computer screen, plus the ability to see local weather without having to switch to the "wait while we download your selection" page and switching back to live tv again.

With DirecTV, you have to use TVersity to stream from your PC to your TV?

And- is streaming from PC to TV available with Dish Network?

 

[Tampa8]

I don't understand what the big deal with the pause button is. I have never used it. Nothing is so important on tv that I would need to pause, even if I had to rush to the ?. I also don't understand why one would want to record four channels at the same time, with so many reruns and such. Who has the time to sit and watch each of those prerecorded channels? But that's me.

You would be in the extreme minority. Pausing allows me to check on the baby or care for her without missing almost every show I try to watch. It allows me to answer the phone or door and not miss the moment in the program I was watching for. I am going to guess you either don't care if you watch TV or not, or do not have a large family. Between us all, there are times there are three or so shows on that each one would like to watch. With various working schedules recording makes that possible. The crisis in the Middle East is an excellent example. I wanted to watch live on Euro News what was going on, so did and recorded the shows we would normally watch.
Also, network reruns are hit and miss, not like it was in the past when almost all series was in re-run all summer. Now they go to Blu-Ray instead in some cases or are on Hulu. I don't care to watch a show on the computer that I can easily record nor do I wish to buy more equipment and subscribe to yet another service just to watch what I could have by just recording it. I actually find it curious that someone who takes the time to come to a forum on Satellite TV does not understand whey those features are important in today's world.

Even beyond all that, it makes life more interesting at work when everyone is talking about a program alot of the people watch and you know what they are talking about and can talk about it too.....I guess there are hundreds of reasons... With what getting channels cost now, why would I not want a way to watch them?

 

[inazsully]

Pausing is necessary if you watch a lot of sports. Don't want to miss those "Oh my God did you see that". Sometimes they show a replay and sometimes they don't. I saved a hole in one for my wife to see a few weeks ago.

 

[dwarren2]

I don't understand what the big deal with the pause button is. I

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We couldn't live without it. We have a dog that likes to go in and out. I can pause what I'm watching when I walk her and resume when I come back in. If either the wife or I have to leave the room, we can pause what we're watching and then resume. With Dish, there is up to an hour buffer or to the last time you changed channels.

 

[towboy123]

I would even begin to know how to watch TV without a Pause button.

The 922 is a DLNA client
I found an option on my 722 but no way to do anything with it
so yes uPnP and DLNA are supported with the Dish