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cosmo_kramer said:
I agree. I don't like to waste my time or energy on arguments I can't win either. ;)

No I don't want to insult your low level of intelligence as if one simply disagrees and points out how another provider does a much better job at it, to you it's an instant troll! After all dish can do no wrong according to all of the lemmings on this side! I try to keep an open mind about dish! But in my view, they do things half assed as apparent by the complaints and they are losing subs! These are all valid and true points, yet many like yourself are blind and fail to see the facts when they are so clear!

If dish wants to be a world class provider, the NEED to stop trying to be d* and they need to lead and be on the fore front on all accounts to include sports! Until then dish can continue the smoke and mirrors to pretend that they are solving their issues when in reality it isn't fixing a dam thing!

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K9SAT said:
No the point is that dish charges customers who are not free for life extra for hd!!!!! So those customers should be entitled to get every channel they pay for as apart of there package in HD as that's what they pay the fee for! Disney had a right to ask for the extra fees as dish was charging there customers extra for their hd feed so Disney pulled onto dish what dish is doing to their customers! Dish didnt want to pay!

What I'm saying is if you pay an fee for HD then you should get every channel that is in your package in hd unless if the provider doesn't have an hd channel! This concept is a double edged sward as directv should do the same also!

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They are doing just that.Disney isn't available in hd do you're getting all in hd.
 
Why should anybody be paying for hd? The requirements to get free hd for life aren't that complicated. I have it and didn't have to do anything.Even if I did paperless billing isn't as problem.
 
They are doing just that.Disney isn't available in hd do you're getting all in hd.

Yes it is.. The channel is produce in HD and available to all providers... What I'm saying is that if you pay HD fees and pay for the channel as apart of your package, you should automatically get that channel in HD regardless of bureaucracy between the provider and channel. If you pay to receive the channel and you pay for HD, you should get that channel!
 
K9SAT said:
Yes it is.. The channel is produce in HD and available to all providers... What I'm saying is that if you pay HD fees and pay for the channel as apart of your package, you should automatically get that channel in HD regardless of bureaucracy between the provider and channel. If you pay to receive the channel and you pay for HD, you should get that channel!

Bob, you're being an idiot. And since you insulted someone's intelligence earlier in the thread, I have no problem calling you out on this.

So your stance is that Dish should provide the HD version of SD channels if HD is available for that channel, regardless of whether Dish has an agreement that allows them to broadcast the channel in HD?

Repeat after me: lawsuits! And Dish would lose each and every one caused by your theory of how things should be done.

Your theory would be great if it applied to retransmission disputes, so that consumers couldn't be held hostage and suddenly lose a channel to improve one side's negotiating position. But, that's not how the law is currently set up and is frankly a ridiculous demand for you to put on Dish's HD offerings without an enabling change in the law first.

As for your theory about people paying for HD should get all the possible HD in their packages because they're paying for HD ignores the fact that Dish has overhead costs in providing HD channels apart from any costs that the content owners try to foist on them in addition to the SD channel price. Uplinks and backhaul and a ton of transponder space that has to be maintained by sending costly sats into orbit (or leasing sat space).

Ever consider that the $10 HD fee goes to mitigate all those costs rather than covering any HD fees you imagine Dish is passing on to the consumers that originate with the content producers? And that by caving to Disney and paying twice for content the costs will just skyrocket for consumers as all providers are forced into double paying for the same content by the content owners.

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This channel is great, I always lose interest in baseball once football season nears but I have found myself watching this channel frequently (MLB Tonight is awesome with the look-ins) and have been watching more MLB games over the past week as well. Very nice presentation on MLB Net.
 
No I don't want to insult your low level of intelligence as if one simply disagrees and points out how another provider does a much better job at it, to you it's an instant troll!
Thanks for the personal insult, it's a shame that you had to resort to it now that you've found some energy. Your posts in this thread are clearly off-topic and trolling.

After all dish can do no wrong according to all of the lemmings on this side!
Look at my avatar!! My version has been in place a lot longer than yours. I've been very vocal about Dish's sports shortcomings, but I do it in appropriate threads. I don't attempt to overtake an informational thread about MLB Network and pollute it with anti-Dish rants.

I try to keep an open mind about dish!
This has to be one of the funniest posts you've made here. Thanks for the laugh!!

[strike]But in my view, they do things half assed as apparent by the complaints and they are losing subs! These are all valid and true points, yet many like yourself are blind and fail to see the facts when they are so clear!

If dish wants to be a world class provider, the NEED to stop trying to be d* and they need to lead and be on the fore front on all accounts to include sports! Until then dish can continue the smoke and mirrors to pretend that they are solving their issues when in reality it isn't fixing a dam thing![/strike]
off-topic.
 
I recently received a mail from Dish that I have now MLB in SD & HD. But when I check....I only get SD channel. Can someone tell me whats the HD channel number for MLB???
 
Im going to make this short as I don't have time to fully respond! Personal attacks were against me first so stop whining. Overhead is all-ready factored in to your base package and the extra fee for hd is a nickel and dime thing! Charlie said that Disney was the only provider to charge extra! So hd was already free to dish from providers! Yes laws do need to get changed!

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rajmarie said:
I recently received a mail from Dish that I have now MLB in SD & HD. But when I check....I only get SD channel. Can someone tell me whats the HD channel number for MLB???

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If we continue in the path this thread is going, it will be a shame because it will be closed. Lets keep it on mlb. Thanks to all.

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I recently received a mail from Dish that I have now MLB in SD & HD. But when I check....I only get SD channel. Can someone tell me whats the HD channel number for MLB???

For PR we can yet get the hd channel is on 72.7 I rec the same email. We have to wait to be available in our spotbeams or a conusbeams on 110 or 119 LOL
 
Why should anybody be paying for hd? The requirements to get free hd for life aren't that complicated. I have it and didn't have to do anything.Even if I did paperless billing isn't as problem.

Dish wanted me to pay a couple hundred extra dollars in equipment costs if I wanted free HD for life, or HD anything, for that matter. Even though I had my stuff installed back in January, I'm SD-only, in an era where retailers don't even sell non-HD televisions anymore. And I pay the same monthly price as the crowd that gets "free HD for life". Really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not saying HD is the be all and end all -- if it was I would have told Dish where to shove it instead of signing up for Dish in the first place -- but I really shouldn't have to pay the same monthly rate as people with "free HD". Either give me HD that's really free, or give me a discount relative to the crowd who gets HD for only getting SD. That's how I feel about it.
 
Dish wanted me to pay a couple hundred extra dollars in equipment costs if I wanted free HD for life, or HD anything, for that matter. Even though I had my stuff installed back in January, I'm SD-only, in an era where retailers don't even sell non-HD televisions anymore. And I pay the same monthly price as the crowd that gets "free HD for life". Really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not saying HD is the be all and end all -- if it was I would have told Dish where to shove it instead of signing up for Dish in the first place -- but I really shouldn't have to pay the same monthly rate as people with "free HD". Either give me HD that's really free, or give me a discount relative to the crowd who gets HD for only getting SD. That's how I feel about it.

Why do yu have to pay anythign or do anything to get hd for free? I didn'thave to do anything to get it they just gave it to me. No commitments nothing paid. Nada, zilch. Just have it.
 
Why do yu have to pay anythign or do anything to get hd for free? I didn'thave to do anything to get it they just gave it to me. No commitments nothing paid. Nada, zilch. Just have it.
If I recall, you already had to have HD and be paying the $10.00 additional to get it as you describe. Hanover was/is SD only.
 
I'm confused suddenly. I've had zero problems with MLBN and have been watching it all the time:) Suddenly, tonight, the Phillies-Brewers game is blacked out here in eastern MI. Is that due to the MLB's crazy regional blackout stupidity? First game I've seen blacked out, and it makes zero sense.
 

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