Dish Home powerline connection - How?

[citsur86]

So I have this adapter that DISH gave me called the
Home Powerline Connection

Can anyone explain how this works - it boggles my mind.

 

[Voyager6]

This thread has a detailed explanation as to how the HomePlug works. http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/103982-homeplug-built-into-622-how-cool.html

 

[MattG@DISH]

Copy and paste details on it:

The Powerline Broadband Connector (also known as HomePlug-to-Ethernet adapter or SlingLink) allows communication over the home power lines, eliminating the need to run new cabling. The ViP-series of DISH Network receiver include HomePlug support – only one Powerline Broadband Connector is needed to connect the satellite receiver to the home networking equipment.
One Powerline Broadband Connector must be obtained for use at the location of the router, gateway, or Ethernet switch. One adapter supports up to 15 receivers. The ViP-series of DISH Network receivers include HomePlug 1.0 support.

Note: The Powerline Broadband Connector and the DISH Network satellite receiver’s power cord should both be plugged directly into an electrical wall outlet. If a surge protector is used, it must be approved for use with HomePlug devices, and the adapter or satellite receiver must be plugged into the HomePlug outlet of the surge protector. Do not plug the adapter or satellite receiver into an outlet that is controlled by a wall switch or into GFI electrical outlets.​

• Installation
  1. Connect one end of an Ethernet cable to an available ETHERNET (LAN) port on the router, gateway, or Ethernet switch.
  2. Connect the other end of the Ethernet cable to the ETHERNET port on the Powerline Broadband Connector.
  3. Plug the Powerline Broadband Connector into an electrical outlet located near the router.
• Setting Up the Receiver
  • Receiver: 211, 211k, 222, 222k, 612, 622, 722, and 722k
    1. Using the DISH Network remote control for the receiver that is connected to the home network, access the Network Setup screen by pressing MENU, selecting System Setup, Installation, Broadband Setup, then Network Setup. Verify the IP address is populated (not all 0s). If the IP address is all 0s, select Reset Connection. An Attention 875 message will display briefly, then you will return to the Network Setup screen.
    2. Verify the Connection Status on the Network Setup screen shows Connected Online, and that the IP address does not show all 0s. If the IP address shows all 0s, follow the “Broadband Connectivity Issues” troubleshooting flow to resolve the issue.
    3. Select Done to exit the Network Setup screen.
    4. Verify the receiver can successfully connect to DISH Network by pressing MENU on the remote control, selecting System Setup, then Diagnostics. Select Connection to test the Internet connection. The Connection option also tests the phone line, if connected. The results should display Broadband Connection OK.
       Note: If a phone line is not also connected to the receiver, connection results will display Phone Connection Failure. This is OK.​

 

[citsur86]

This thread has a detailed explanation as to how the HomePlug works.

Thanks - that explains it. Very cool tech.

 

[Centex]

Do not plug the adapter or satellite receiver into an outlet that is controlled by a wall switch or into GFI electrical outlets.

Really? My entire house is covered by GFI outlets. What am I supposed to do with that?

 

[MaryB@SlingTV]

Really? My entire house is covered by GFI outlets. What am I supposed to do with that?

You will probably need to go with the Wireless connection using the Wireless NetGear adapter. It connects to the USB port on the receiver. #3 Here

 

[TG2]

You will probably need to go with the Wireless connection using the Wireless NetGear adapter. It connects to the USB port on the receiver. #3 Here

not to kill the USB Dongle ... but think just a little bit more before you go that route.. if the receiver is the only thing you need networking for ... then go for it.. its inexpensive ..etc.. however, if you have several networked devices in/around the tv and your dish receiver.. then you might instead buy a wireless bridge, and a small network switch (if your bridge doesn't have enough ports on it that is) and you can link all of your "dongle" needing devices together.

My bluray was 50 dollars cheaper because it didn't come with wireless (the dongle for that was another 50 to 60 bucks) my Onkyo AV receiver supported a 99 dollar wireless network adapter, and then there was my dish 722k .. instead of paying 150 for 3 or 4 dongles.. I bought a cheap wireless bridge (router) for under 40 bucks.. there's a "hawking" brand bridge that was also only 25 bucks that plus a 10 dollar switch would have worked too.. costing 35 total and giving me extra wired ports so I could hook up an older PC near the tv too..

If you're thinking that might be for you.. and you want more info.. gimmie a holler.

 

[Claude Greiner]

I wish Dish would have setup there receivers like Directv and do the networking over the coax.

Granted the power networking stuff is a little easier to install since the connection to the router is super easy, where as Directv you need to run a coax cable.

The only downside to the power line adaptors is that they seem hit or miss when it comes to jumping the phases in an electrical system. I really don't like the fact that you can't plug the receiver into any power strip. For years Dish has advocated getting a good power strip with a surge protector to protect the equipment agenst surges, and the powerline networking stuff just throws that concept out the window.

I ended up running eithernet cable in my house, as I found a good $50 Panamax surge protector goes a long way to increase the lifespan of my DVR.

 

[pabeader]

Really? My entire house is covered by GFI outlets. What am I supposed to do with that?

individual GFI at each outlet? or one main one that covers whole area?

 

[Centex]

One main one that covers the area.

 

[TheKrell]

I fail to see what inside a GFI receptacle would quash the powerline networking... Surge protectors, yes. But GFI?

 

[TG2]

I fail to see what inside a GFI receptacle would quash the powerline networking... Surge protectors, yes. But GFI?

GFCI measures through a transformer / transformer circuit ... so the electric signal passes through a device that can impede the signal.. or just by being close to the signal path... the electronics in the GFCI outlet cause enough distortion to make the signalling fail .. (the first link is the cleanest and possibly will immediately help people realize .. ie. transformer core)

How does GFCI Work?
And here
How GFCIs Work

Power line communication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (signal attenuation)

there's also a good read here..
Powerline, HomePlugs and gaming: eight things you should know | Technology | guardian.co.uk
(remember "shipped" and "in use" are completely different meanings; ie. best buy has 10 on the shelf ... they were shipped but aren't in use ... and sometimes you see them with lots of dust on top ... gives you an idea of the differences in that "marketing" ploy)