Carrier IQ Android OEM tracking software... logs your every move... and not happy about XDA

[rockymtnhigh]

again, suggestion of a relationship is not evidence of a relationship. there are no restrictions on naming subdomains within a domain.

i like actual proof rather than supposition.



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As Sheldon Cooper would say "Meeting adjourned. The conversation is circling."

I could counter-point that, but for some reason you seem insistent on arguing it, so I will drop it. Its not worth it.

 

[Foxbat]

Rocky, apparently that example you used does not respond to PINGing anymore. So I did a WhoIs on it:

FoxbatMacPro266:Library Foxbat$ whois 204.235.122.251#
# Query terms are ambiguous.  The query is assumed to be:
#     "n 204.235.122.251"
#
# Use "?" to get help.
#


#
# The following results may also be obtained via:
# [URL]http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=204.235.122.251?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&ext=netref2[/URL]
#


NetRange:       204.235.122.0 - 204.235.123.255
CIDR:           204.235.122.0/23
OriginAS:       AS19214, AS1239
NetName:        CARRIERIQ
NetHandle:      NET-204-235-122-0-1
Parent:         NET-204-0-0-0-0
NetType:        Direct Assignment
RegDate:        2010-10-08
Updated:        2010-10-15
Ref:            [URL]http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-204-235-122-0-1[/URL]


OrgName:        Carrier IQ, Inc.
OrgId:          CARRI38
Address:        1200 Villa St., Ste 200
City:           Mountain View
StateProv:      CA
PostalCode:     94041
Country:        US
RegDate:        2010-08-02
Updated:        2010-08-02
Ref:            [URL]http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CARRI38[/URL]


OrgAbuseHandle: DOMAI265-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Domain Admin
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-650-625-5479
OrgAbuseEmail:  [EMAIL="bharvey@carrieriq.com"]bharvey@carrieriq.com[/EMAIL]
OrgAbuseRef:    [URL]http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/DOMAI265-ARIN[/URL]


OrgTechHandle: DOMAI265-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Domain Admin
OrgTechPhone:  +1-650-625-5479
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL="bharvey@carrieriq.com"]bharvey@carrieriq.com[/EMAIL]
OrgTechRef:    [URL]http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/DOMAI265-ARIN[/URL]


OrgNOCHandle: DOMAI265-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   Domain Admin
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-650-625-5479
OrgNOCEmail:  [EMAIL="bharvey@carrieriq.com"]bharvey@carrieriq.com[/EMAIL]
OrgNOCRef:    [URL]http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/DOMAI265-ARIN[/URL]


#
# ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
# available at: [URL]https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html[/URL]
#

Ah, an address. Let's go to the Google and check it out.

What's this? CarrierIQ is next door to Microsoft??!?!?!???!!? AH-HA!!!!!

 

[diogen]

I think this is a good attempt to force the hand of the "mastermind"... if there ever was one
Apple, Motorola, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile latest to be sued over Carrier IQ tracking

Diogen.

 

[jrp]

Carrier IQ in Europe?

European regulators start investigating Carrier IQ | Macworld

 

[diogen]

I think Apple is the main target in Europe because they don't allow carriers push customized ROMs.
Hence, whatever is on the phone comes from Apple.

With Android this is a moot point...

Diogen.

 

[John Kotches]

foxbat,

all the address tells you is where the registered owner of the domain is. that doesnt tell you where the physical hardware is and that could be anywhere in the world.





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[Hall]

Another story downplaying the original hoopla over CIQ...

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/...emails-has-some-worrisome-capabilities-120511

 

[rockymtnhigh]

And from Gizmodo....

http://gizmodo.com/5865238/carrier-iq-software-may-not-be-recording-some-keystrokes

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[Foxbat]

foxbat,

all the address tells you is where the registered owner of the domain is. that doesnt tell you where the physical hardware is and that could be anywhere in the world.





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John, I'm basing my post on the CarrierIQ logo on the signage for 1200 Villa St. I wanted to be sure, so I checked Google for the CarrierIQ logo:

You can make it out just to the left of the 1200 on the sign.

Now, where the actual servers are that might be collecting data, you're right. They could be anywhere.

 

[diogen]

Not that Eric Schmidt never had to withdraw his comments,
but this one seems to be exactly what common sense would tell you
Schmidt calls Carrier IQ software a keylogger - The Inquirer

Regardless of what some "security researchers" try to make you believe...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Not exactly the most reliable source of objective information, but of note nonetheless:
the government is involved in the CIQ shenanigans... not on the customers' side
FBI says Carrier IQ files used for "law enforcement purposes" - Boing Boing

And /. discussion...

Diogen.

 

[John Kotches]

This just keeps getting stranger and stranger.

Yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, we can't tell you anything.

 

[diogen]

More
FBI holding Carrier IQ data for 'law enforcement purposes' | The Verge

Again, WTF was that security expert talking about *CIQ can not record*...

Diogen.

 

[John Kotches]

More
FBI holding Carrier IQ data for 'law enforcement purposes' | The Verge

Again, WTF was that security expert talking about *CIQ can not record*...

Diogen.

If this is true, how is this NOT a warrantless wiretap?

 

[rockymtnhigh]

If this is true, how is this NOT a warrantless wiretap?

It is a warrantless wiretap, unless they got a warrant, of course. But it is indicative of the problems we face. Law enforcement run amuck.

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[berck]

Carrier IQ CEO does a Q&A...

Exclusive Interview: Carrier IQ Gets Transparent About Its Mobile Monitoring

 

[Neutron]

It is a warrantless wiretap, unless they got a warrant, of course. But it is indicative of the problems we face. Law enforcement run amuck.

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Unfortunately that's the world we live in nowadays.

The only choice we have to avoid this is to not use a smartphone or use one that has a custom ROM on it.

 

[diogen]

I think this interview accompanied by the official document will finally make everybody happy. I'm not kidding.

First, everybody can refer to it as "explaining everything" while not even reading it (18 pages?! are you nuts?).
Second, nobody knows who does what in the triangle CIQ-HandsetMaker-NetworkOperator, i.e. freedom to point to the other guy.
Third, everybody wants to start Xmas shopping and singing carols instead of reading this crap and now they have a reason to do just that!
Fourth, see first to start over...

Although my memory is getting hazy, the propaganda on front page Soviet Union newspapers was doing a much better brainwashing job...

Diogen.

 

[Frank Jr.]

I just went to the website for Carrier IQ. I find what is shown from their website in the thumbnail below to be alarming to say the least. There should be an option to disable this software or better yet have it totally removed by the owner of the phones in question. I was a law enforcement officer for 32 years, 16 years as a high level task force investigator with my local D/A's office serving two counties. I used every legal means available with regards to phones in my investigations when warranted, but not before obtaining the proper search warrants and or subpoenas. I agree with Rocky that this equates to illegal wire tapping. Even if the data obtained from this software is collected and used properly as this business seems to claim, the abuse potential is far to great. They should have received a cease and desist order shortly after it was discovered by Trever. Better yet, never allowed to start up in the first place. The seemingly ever increasing encroachment on our civil rights by business and government, concerns me greatly, and I do not readily sound these concerns often, as many already know.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I just went to the website for Carrier IQ. I find what is shown from their website in the thumbnail below to be alarming to say the least. There should be an option to disable this software or better yet have it totally removed by the owner of the phones in question. I was a law enforcement officer for 32 years, 16 years as a high level task force investigator with my local D/A's office serving two counties. I used every legal means available with regards to phones in my investigations when warranted, but not before obtaining the proper search warrants and or subpoenas. I agree with Rocky that this equates to illegal wire tapping. Even if this software is being collected and used properly as this business seems to claim, the abuse potential is far to great. They should have received a cease and desist order shortly after it was discovered by Trever. Better yet, never allowed to start up in the first place. The seemingly ever increasing encroachment on our civil rights by business and government, concerns me greatly, and I do not readily sound these concerns often, as many already know.

Can't click like from the iPad, but I wanted to. . Agreed 100%

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