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So you are playing both sides of the "argument"?
 

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I just want to know who's going to be first to let me watch something off my DVR, in HD, on my Android tablet.
Who will be first to let me see an integrated schedule of recordings and allow me to assign them to specific receivers to avoid conflict?

All of this stuff is networked now. There's no real good reason why either of these features shouldn't be available now. :)
 

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I just want to know who's going to be first to let me watch something off my DVR, in HD, on my Android tablet.
Who will be first to let me see an integrated schedule of recordings and allow me to assign them to specific receivers to avoid conflict?

All of this stuff is networked now. There's no real good reason why either of these features shouldn't be available now. :)

I thought,techically,both DTV & Dish allowed you to do this already. Dish,with both sling adapter & sling built into their dvr's(both ViP922 & Hopper with built in sling) allows you to do that with the Dish Everywhere(or is it Anywhere?) App,AND DTV also allows you to do that too on their android app.
 

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Both opinions, of course. Are you saying that Dish has never upgraded their hardware or software?

Nope.. just saying they beat Hopper out by 4-5 months? but the HR34 was released well before it should have been.. and Hopper had features (like Pandora) before they finally got added to HR34... and here we are 1.5 years later and (IMO) DTV seems to have acknowledged that the HR34 isn't flagship quality, hence the introduction of the HR44, which might have a CPU up to the task.. my HR34 is an exercise in sluggish. :(
 

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There was more time between the release of the HR34 and HR44 than some of the HR2X series dvrs.
 

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Nope.. just saying they beat Hopper out by 4-5 months? but the HR34 was released well before it should have been.. and Hopper had features (like Pandora) before they finally got added to HR34... and here we are 1.5 years later and (IMO) DTV seems to have acknowledged that the HR34 isn't flagship quality, hence the introduction of the HR44, which might have a CPU up to the task.. my HR34 is an exercise in sluggish. :(

What have you done to alleviate the slowness?
 

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I just want to know who's going to be first to let me watch something off my DVR, in HD, on my Android tablet.
First off, let's not assume that any random Android tablet is "HD". Most are decidedly different than HDTVs in their aspect ratio and resolution.

A Slingbox Pro (or DISH's Sling solutions) can, up to the capacity of your broadband connection, encode HD content in real time. Monsoon boxes may be able to provide similar results.
 

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Just trying to make sure that the perspectives are as accurate as possible. A thread like this shouldn't be about what color glasses you wear.

I can see the irony dripping from this post!
 

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Did you mean to say what have you tried?

Are there any recognized remedies?

No, I meant what have you done. It doesn't mean that whatever may have been done worked. Are you moving on to semantics now?
 

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What have you done to alleviate the slowness?

exactly what should a CUSTOMER do to alleviate the slowness in a DTV product ?!?! Its *my* responsibility ??!? Last I checked they haven't open sourced the firmware so I could go in and clean it up :)

I have seen several suggested magic combinations of the colored buttons to press.. none did me any good. And I've attempted to disable the few items in the settings that they give me control over that might be akin to gee-whiz features that I was very willing to trade to get this 286-class processor to try to run at Win95 speeds :)
 

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A dvr is a computer. Would you go to HP or Dell and complain because your computer isn't as fast as it used to be? I wouldn't. I use Glary and other similar tools to help keep my computer running as best as I can. It's the same with a dvr, just a different methodology. Clearing the nvram or keeping the % of stored recordings down are ways of keeping it running better.
 

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A dvr is a computer. Would you go to HP or Dell and complain because your computer isn't as fast as it used to be? I wouldn't. I use Glary and other similar tools to help keep my computer running as best as I can. It's the same with a dvr, just a different methodology. Clearing the nvram or keeping the % of stored recordings down are ways of keeping it running better.

I've got an HR22 that USE to be slow as crap and I cleared the nvram and have about 96% free on it now. It's just as fast as my HR24's now
 

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A dvr is a computer. Would you go to HP or Dell and complain because your computer isn't as fast as it used to be? I wouldn't. I use Glary and other similar tools to help keep my computer running as best as I can. It's the same with a dvr, just a different methodology. Clearing the nvram or keeping the % of stored recordings down are ways of keeping it running better.

BS... if it was a computer. I could dump the sluggish OS they included and throw linux on it :)

this is not a device an end-user should have to "tweak" to make it work with acceptable responsiveness. A very small minority of customers knowing some tricks (which didn't make any noticeable difference for me) does not absolve DTV from the reality that the HR34 is no shinging example of UI responsiveness.

As for HD usage % Its a **DVR** not just a RCVR.. it should be designed to operate efficiently in the presence of stored material. That's, well, sort of it's purpose :) It's not like it's postprocessing the video. My HR34 can be sluggish even when its not recording anything. And when it is.. then it's even worse :( The other night it wouldn't even turn on and output HDMI.. had to wait until a recording finished and do a reset.
 

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BS huh? So you are saying a dvr isn't a computer? That's BS! BTW, I never said the HR34 worked to any specific level of efficiency. I merely offered a couple of examples of how you might be able to make it work better. If that didn't work for you I'm sorry I couldn't help you.
 

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I have been reading the forums a lot and it seems like there are many people saying how slow DTV is with technology compared to Dish. Correct me if I am wrong and I can be wrong but Im curious about...

First company to offer HD in every room
First to have WHDVR
The newly dubbed HR34 now Genie came out a year before the Hopper
The newly dubbed nomad now GenieGo has been available for SEVERAL years

and these are hot topics that are important to customers now, im not saying Dish didnt later come out with innovative technology first, but what is important to the customer now. I agree that Dish came out with previous mentioned technology with some flashy commercials and a little feature here and there (PTAT, live mode sling) but the core technology DTV has had a lot longer.

Of course I am a little biased towards DTV but when people post omg when is DTV going to get with the picture and get something comparable to the hopper/sling/joey I feel like providing some education on the matter.
The one real advantage DISh had over D* was their dual tuner receivers. One receiver for two tvs. That was with full functions. Dish kinda wrecked it when they at first required a land based phone connection to avoid an additional $5 monthly fee. A fee which on my installs( I was a tech) was a huge bone of contention.
Anyway, the idea of one receiver for two tv's was appealing to many.
 

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The one real advantage DISh had over D* was their dual tuner receivers. One receiver for two tvs. That was with full functions. Dish kinda wrecked it when they at first required a land based phone connection to avoid an additional $5 monthly fee. A fee which on my installs( I was a tech) was a huge bone of contention.
Anyway, the idea of one receiver for two tv's was appealing to many.

I would agree if the second tv could be in hd.
 

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BS... if it was a computer. I could dump the sluggish OS they included and throw linux on it :)
In this case, the HR34 already has *nix on it. If you know about *nix, you know there aren't a whole lot of "optimizing" solutions available for it.
A very small minority of customers knowing some tricks (which didn't make any noticeable difference for me) does not absolve DTV from the reality that the HR34 is no shinging example of UI responsiveness.
That's something that they've chosen to live with given the feature set that has been implemented. DIRECTV obviously believes it is a good balance and they are convinced they've done everything they can given the SoC that they are using.

That it doesn't satisfy some is unfortunate, but there are other options (i.e. a herd of HR24s).
 
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